Le Potager du Sloth: origin, objectives and principles Video

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La Potager du Sloth, video presentation by Didier Helmstetter (Aka Did67): its origin, its objectives and principles ...

Legend of the introductory photo: "The owner of the Lazy Potager surprised at work ... explanation! "

The "Potager du Sloth" is a way to produce vegetables "more than organic", in abundance, without any tillage (no spade, no pickaxe, no hoe, not even "grelinette"), without any fertilizers (neither biological nor chemical) and, of course, without synthetic pesticides (especially without fungicides)!

The method relies on a permanent soil cover with hay or BRF. This video introduces this way.

Didier is looking for a name for this new method of revolutionary culture, do not hesitate to answer the question "What do you think is the best name (2 possible choices) for the technique of hay cultivation of the" Potager du Sloth "? Didier? In the column to the right of the site or to discuss about the about Didier about forums


introductory article (text version) Potager du Sloth

Lesson Number One of the Kitchen Garden Sloth: garden with hay

Follow-up of the works on the garden of Didier H. since 2014 on forums


17 comments on "Le Potager du Paresseux: origin, goals and principles in video"

  1. Didier invented nothing is called permaculture (technical start dating), Didier needs above all glory and pull the blanket to him.
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    1. To my knowledge, the conventional permaculture is the straw and not hay ... but Didier certainly answer you further with his engineering knowledge agronomist ...

      Damage to personal invective

    2. 1) Permaculture is not, from a technical point of view, very well defined: there are different ways to make permaculture. The "Bec Hellouin" does not do as Sepp Holzer in Austria, who does not like Richard Wallner who does not like Christophe Köppel.
      2) Therefore, I do not pretend to permaculture.
      3) I put much more emphasis on the reduction of working. So no mounds. No composting. All things that I do not find relevant.
      4) After reflection, I came to consider that a permanent cover of the ground primarily with hay was the best possible compromise, in our climates. While many "methods" are based on land cover, I do not know who puts the emphasis, or the priority on the hay. If I'm wrong, I have to read books or writings that do that. This is not in itself a big "invention", indeed. But that still changes a lot when it comes to feeding the living creatures of the cycle. It's a little change of "fuel". Diesel was a motor. We can say that it was an engine, like the others ...
      5) Now, no war of religions! It does not bother me that you think it is nothing. That does not bother me not you think I'm doing this just for the glory ... I do not understand why it bothers you so much? A complex ?
      6) I continue because more and more people, especially among the "classic" gardeners who until then worked "bare ground", so dig, draw, bin, grell ... find it interesting. And that it encouraged them to revise their way of doing things. And they thank me. We would not be in France if there was anyone to find that bad.

    1. Is this an ironic form to tell me I talk too slowly? or too long, period?
      When I watch, it's normal.
      I am breathless, indeed. View PS

      [PS: when I shot this video, I was in severe heart failure, waiting for two interventions in May and June; with the sweltering heat that day, I was "short of breath"; I do not find very charitable, if it's mockery ... I have since my infarction in 2007, a left ventricle to 45% of the normal capacity ... I do not soubaite anyone. Not even to my enemies - or to scoffers!]


  2. I agree magma13, I practice this technique for years ... where is the novelty? Personally I've never had to hoe, dig ... my leeks, tomatoes ...
    If Didier want to bring something "revolutionary" to this case, I would like him to tell me how he proceeds with the carrots ... and especially how a simple mulch could overcome the CPB or mildew? ...

    1. Again, the "novelty" is to cover with hay instead of other materials. I'm not saying that nobody did it before. But the vast majority of books, sites, videos talk about using straw, BRF, compost, dead leaves ... I'm not aware of mentions of hay. If there is, I am interested.

      I think that composting is, in a kitchen garden, a mistake. Here again: some are already doing "cold surface decomposition", but the majority of the media continues to promote compost as the "ultimate" of "organic" gardening.

      Let's be clear: there are certainly a number of people I have absolutely nothing brings. Good for them. They have evolved in the right direction alone.

      But it also happens that another "number of people" are discovering ... and are very interested. It's for them that I make articles, posts, videos ... There is still, in our campaigns, a majority of fans of the tiller. It's for them that I'm falling apart ...

      Finally, let us be even clearer: seen as we finish the vast majority of "revolutionaries", I would be ashamed to be! So I will do everything not to be. God forbid!

      For carrots, I do as for my other vegetables: permanent coverage of hay / furrow opening at the Sillon'net / harvest at the fork-spade (so here I am forced to stir a little earth, indeed). There are pictures on the forum, on page 40: https://www.econologie.com/forums/agriculture/jardiner-plus-que-bio-en-semis-direct-sans-fatigue-t13846-390.html
      Let's be honest: this year the ground was so muddy all the time that I hurt my successful seeding (all, including carrots). I redid yesterday, now that this ressuie.
      I do not do pdt. I have 3 or 4 feet that grew "naturally" (peelings), that I did not have the heart to tear ... No mildew (well not significantly). 3 CPB in 3 weeks, caught by hand, and who a priori had not laid: no larvae!
      I do not have mildew on tomatoes either. There are also pictures on the forum. But without doubt it would be necessary to develop everything that happens in a soil when one feeds living organisms well and how plants are then, undoubtedly, more beefy ??? No doubt it would be necessary to speak of all the efforts to have an intense fungal life in the soil ... I can only say one thing: I do not treat with copper sulphate (Bordeaux mixture - a poison for soils and living beings soil) and I have not, since 4 years, major problems of mildew - I mean that there may be one or the other stain, but not affecting the production.
      But nothing is ever perfect: this year on tomato leaf mold an attack on one of the plots, which was under the shadow Proteus by raspberry and did not see the sun before 11 am ... Another plot in full Soliel is nickel ...

    2. And yes, there are people who know everything, who always have something to say but who do not do much.
      Thank you very much Didier for your videos, thank you for taking the time to make known a method. It is Philippe my neighbor of garden who cultivates in this way and who advised me to go to see the videos. Well, I start the experiment, I like the idea so I just have to practice

  3. Didier thank you for sharing your experiences. I also want to mention the network Vegetable Sol Vivant working on these issues of non tillage by appport carbonaceous materials (including hay) maraichagesolvivant.org

  4. Bonjour.
    "Bio" I see what it is ... an appellation for urban ecologists! More bio than bio, should explain me!
    Our elders, for many, natural gardened, period!
    Now let's reinvent reinventors, this is only an eternal beginning, nothing new.

    1. Christophe replied. This "appellation" is voluntarily a nothing, but gently, provocative. It is located in relation to "bio AB" as certified in stores or in circuits. In short, what almost everyone calls "bio".
      And indeed, the specifications (which few people do not know) allow different "substances", provided they are natural. So fertilizers (natural). So as Christophe says, copper sulphate, yet a poison for soil life. But "natural" (in the sense "that exists in nature"). Some natural insecticides are allowed (rotenone has been for a long time, pyrethrum is still) but although natural, have significant effects, with a very broad spectrum (they kill almost anything called an insect) and often amphibians). In wine, "organic", sulphites are allowed.
      I thus free myself from the dogma "if it's natural, it's good" and does not use most of the products authorized in "organic certified AB".
      I called this an "image"; "More than organic".

  5. It's more organic than organic because organic agriculture still uses inputs (less chemicals than conventional agriculture gender Bordeaux mixture but it is still chemistry anyway) ... Didier uses nothing, absolutely nothing! Hence the name ...

    Yes he could have called the technique also "The return of the garden to natural"

  6. Hello everyone,
    And I discover as I did not pitch before I find all your interesting experiences. Which is a shame it is critical on such a site. Not all the same calm in a garden!

    1. Criticism is normal! We are not a dictatorship.
      After, all movement of thought has its devotees, who can not think outside of their beliefs (eg if it's organic, it's perfect!).
      Sometimes it's just ignorance. I invite everyone to do a research on "rotenone", a natural insecticide long used by "bios", banned in recent years by the EU (oh bad guys!), Since a study revealed that it could promote the Parkinson disease…
      Sometimes it is the lack of reasoning in "binary": black or white ... On earth, I only believe in shades of gray ... The "organic" (labeled AB) is not all white. It is only "light gray". And I think I'm even more light gray without doing "white" ...
      And the expression "natural garden" would be even more misleading: in my corner, the only natural ecosystem would be a more or less anarchic hardwood forest ... My garden is not at all "natural", it is a system "seriously anthropized "because of what I impose: tomatoes, beans, melons, etc ... All online, what is more! But I use "springs" of nature, through the stimulation of the soil life!

  7. Hello Didier,
    I find your statement that I find extremely interesting, because it really brings something new and simplified compared with the techniques of permaculture, I try recently. My biggest problem is that my vegetables and fruits are almost all eaten by insects and other predators (apple eaten away lands: I do not know what animal it operates at night, yet I have surrounded my fine mesh garden). In wet season, slugs abound in the environment that is very favorable to them ...
    Too bad you are at the other end of France (I'm in the Bordeaux region) because I would have liked to come and receive your teachings.
    thanks again

  8. Hello, did67
    I thank you for your videos and your advice.
    My lice is passionate for a few years by our garden and it is the first year or we harvest so much (not a vegetable bought since June) but the work was heavy and tiring.
    Like you (although much younger in his thirties) he suffered last year a cardiac operation that today no longer allows him to stay in the sun or to make too much physical effort. We therefore want to go into PARESSEUX mode but effective. We are in the south with a very clayey soil with little earthworm so far (but more and more every year) that needs green manure or hay by your method.
    We do not know where to start. and we would like some small advice.
    In your videos told you to put the hay in November, does that mean that you do not do any winter planting ??? Do you lay hay each year ??
    We have a kitchen garden of 100m2 I would say full right now, an area of ​​30m2 fallow with lots of "weed". We would like to cover the 30 m2 with hay for next spring crops.
    But for the current vegetable garden, we wanted to make plantations for this autonomous.
    We advise you not to foresee anything to favor rather the contribution of the hay until the spring. where hay can be planted and hay planted at the same time as the first year.

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