Limited urban speed: ZONE 30 km / h in the city (project in Strasbourg, done in Brussels in 2021) in Paris?

[sen-no-sen]

The automobile in Paris hardly goes faster than the horse-drawn carriages !!

The average speed of cars in Paris is around 16 km / h!
By bike, even without being athletic, it is easy to ride faster.

[dedeleco]

Some go for it without hesitation:

All these trays break cars, baffles are the delight of garage owners.

It's archival if we respect the 30Km / h !!
Often justified, in front of schools, and pedestrian places !!

How many times on a bike, I yelled at driving car drivers who grazed me too closely, to stop a little further, where I repeated them slowly !!!
Worse, by bike, they overtake me by grazing me, to slow down just after, too much on these bumpy plateaus to block me on my bike, while I easily cross these plateaus at 40Km / h by bike, just to force myself to brake and restart, without motor !!

Raz the bowl, these cheeky motorists, without embarrassment or politeness, more unable to ride the slightest hill by bicycle !!

We should only give a driving license to those who are able to ride a hill at 20% gradient and 200m drop (just a small km) !!

[sherkanner]

The lights are generally synchronized, often:
- so as to facilitate access to the city in the morning (exterior to interior)
- in order to facilitate the evacuation of the city (in the evening, interior to exterior)
- specifically to break the speeds of motorists in specific places (schools and other sensitive areas).

Synchronization in this way only works when people respect the limitations, if they go too fast or too slow, they will have all the red lights, and because of their restart they will hinder those who follow the limitations creating an accordion effect.

[Christophe]

Brussels has just imposed a full ZONE 30... A vast anti-econological bullshit ... victory for eco-friendly bobos neuneus who would do well to be better informed before passing laws anti economic and anti ecological... In short, come and read this forum !

It is enough to have a minimum of savvy to know that a modern car will consume more, in stabilized speed, at 30 than at 50 and at 70 ... not to mention congestion!

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[Macro]

I had the same ineptitude with the limitation to 80 with automatic vehicles that no longer passed the last gear ...

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

I had the same ineptitude with the limitation to 80 with automatic vehicles that no longer passed the last gear ...

Which ? My car rolls in 7th gear at 80, comfortable and at less than 2000 rpm.

[Macro]

Audi A6C7 190cvTDI 7-speed dsg gearbox ... The one for my wife with CVT ditto ... You have to force the lever or the paddles .... But on these cars at 80 on the last report we are rather at 1100rpm .. .

I have to look at I had taken two photos of the same trip ... A fact on receipt at 87 by forcing the last report, and one at 80 by letting it flow automatically ... The difference in consumption was not enormous. ... But the advantage went to the fastest route ...

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Audi A6C7 190cvTDI 7-speed dsg gearbox ... The one for my wife with CVT ditto ... You have to force the lever or the paddles .... But on these cars at 80 on the last report we are rather at 1100rpm .. .

I have to look at I had taken two photos of the same trip ... A fact on receipt at 87 by forcing the last report, and one at 80 by letting it flow automatically ... The difference in consumption was not enormous. ... But the advantage went to the fastest route ...

It is true that a diesel likes better to descend less low in the turns than a gasoline. Then it depends on the gear ratio.

[Christophe]

The 30 km / h planned for Paris for the end of August !!!

Mouahahahahah anything !! Already things stop at 50, 70 or 90 km / h ...





These bottom of the front of ecological decision makers EELV would do well to play around a few hours with this simulation, it is free and it will not cost the French people the hundreds of thousands of € of a phony study of a private bogus firm!

new-transport / simulator-of-traffic-road-to-parameter-variable-t16309.html

ps: it is very well this ERIC DE CAUMONT especially in the 2nd video!

[Exnihiloest]

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The average speed of cars in Paris is around 16 km / h!

It is 16km / h (sources?) Because when the situation allows it, we can drive faster.

I did a lot of business trips in the Paris region at one time, and often I had the hotel in Paris. In the morning, I went faster to work by car than by metro (for example from Porte St-Martin in Rueil, in addition it was a real pleasure, magnificent, the great boulevards, Bonne Nouvelle, Opéra, Madeleine, Concorde, Champs-Elysée, l'Etoile there we no longer circulate, we navigate, La Défense ...).
Even from the Gare de l'Est a little beyond the Place d'Italie I went faster by car. It suffices that there are 1 or 2 changes and that the destination is a little far from a station, and the car has the advantage. I don't know why, on the way back in the evening, it was slower. Of course, that was before Hidalgo. We're definitely unlucky with Hispanics. Valls, Hidalgo, it's not "Olé!", It's "Holà".