Storage and geo thermal phase shift in soils

[Obamot]

Exactly Clasou, also in renovation, even for old buildings, we try to put the insulation outside. But some oppose it for questions of aesthetics .... After he prefers to engage in idle projects thinking that because it is THEM who decide ... it will work necessarily ...

With arguments like those of Dedelco, it would be zero at school ...

Moreover the more the debate advances, less the practice of the storage in the ground seems reasonable in many cases (certainly not in all ...). And for the rehabilitation of old buildings WITH "SIMPLE" SOLUTIONS (but without simplistic reasoning), we will have to be much more imaginative than Drake Landing ...

Christophe: thin he still placed his "advertisement"

[Christophe]

It is necessary to do well towards the energy autonomy and to make everyone agree that it is in renovation but especially in nine:

a) Very good insulation (as far as possible in renovation)
b) A good climate (hard renovation but possible: put a veranda SOUTH or WEST for example, open a south wall ...)
c) Exploitation of the solar energy at least for ECS with active thermal buffering (reserve of calories where we will pump) or passive (solar wall = climatism)
d) Complement locally purchased wood
e) Healthy behavior of the inhabitants (economical behavior, regulation, no heating at 23 ° C ...)
f) A little photovoltaic if we still have sub ... and in this case we can split a supplement air-to-air heat pump 500 € and 3 5kW hot in the main living room.

[Gaston]

And for the rehabilitation of old buildings WITH "SIMPLE" SOLUTIONS (but without simplistic reasoning), we will have to be much more imaginative than Drake Landing ...

+1
The Drake Landing solution works well in a geologically suitable location, with new construction.

The possibility of generalizing to "95% of existing constructions" is far from being guaranteed.

[dedeleco]

Given all the solar energy that falls on our roofs, car parks, etc .. in summer, why you do not put forward the way to store it (even with losses) to use it in winter, by developing the effective and cheap solutions, imaginatively, instead of refusing to search !!!!
It is nevertheless the essential solution after the insulations not expensive !!!

[Christophe]

But dedé, solutions there are tons (well almost)! Energy autonomy for heating the home (at least with respect to fossil fuels) has been possible for years! What is missing is the political will, the economic reality (tax, oil, gas ...) and the education and the technical skills (but for that, luckily we are there! Hihi) !!!

When I see new "clone" houses which do not take into account the climatism and which still consume 2000L / year of fuel oil at more than 150 kWh EP / m².year, well I'm enraged !!! It should be forbidden ! But as long as there are idiots to buy them (sorry there are no other words) well it will be! This is why education is fundamental!

Replace 300 500L oil with wood is quite possible, replace 2000 L is much more restrictive!

It seems that I speak in a vacuum ... since these solutions I have just stated:

It is necessary to do well towards the energy autonomy and to make everyone agree that it is in renovation but especially in nine:

a) Very good insulation (as far as possible in renovation)
b) A good climate (hard renovation but possible: put a veranda SOUTH or WEST for example, open a south wall ...)
c) Exploitation of the solar energy at least for ECS with active thermal buffering (reserve of calories where we will pump) or passive (solar wall = climatism)
d) Complement locally purchased wood
e) Healthy behavior of the inhabitants (economical behavior, regulation, no heating at 23 ° C ...)
f) A little photovoltaic if we still have sub ... and in this case we can split a supplement air-to-air heat pump 500 € and 3 5kW hot in the main living room.

So dedicate, on the bottom we agree: must stamp, remains to agree on the means of stamping!

[Obamot]

+ 1 to all .... Dede, we have nothing against you at the bottom, and you know it well!

What would be needed then is a real "marshall plan" of renewable energy, but even in my corner we prefer to leave it to the initiative "private" ... So investments always cost as much .... Alas .

The only thing I ask you, stpis to modulate your answers according to the cases to be treated, without constantly recalling the same project (which can not apply to all the cases, you say it yourself henceforth, that it is necessary a study of the soil ...)

You can also promote solutions that "work" in a fair way .... Like Jenni ....

And it would be better to do it, because by pulling in the paws - when finally we defend the same values ​​- we are very counterproductive ...

[Christophe]

we are very counterproductive ...

+ 10 and on several levels: we demotivate ourselves and demotivate the readers of passage ...

In web language it's called: "troller" ...

[Obamot]

Thank you I take ... ( ) [Edit]