Radioactive fertilizers?

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by jonule » 05/09/08, 14:33

how stupid you are christophe! : Lol:

do you accuse ecologists of going back to school? Do you think it's the green people who smoke? : Lol:

because they can't compare 1 and 1000?

I thought that with all the messages I had left on radioactivity, you had at least read a few!

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the radioactivity of a man, pfffff ..... either, according to the WHO standards recently accepted with the CEA, but certainly not in the middle ages ... but let's move on!

there is a huge difference between an alpha, beta and gamma ray!

you did not know ? don't you remember high school class "an alpha ray is stopped by a sheet of paper"?
yes but our lungs are not sheets of paper, and all the particles + fine that the micron pass directly into the blood ... they are transported and are accumulated like all heavy metals in the heart and the brain. as soon as they are in the blood, they radiate everything around!

understand ? that is to say that it necrosis, carcinogenesis, mutagenesis etc ... by force, several years later it is the declared cancer which metastasized where are the heavy metals ... and it is transmitted from generation to generation! what the hell is that ... birth defects? my eye.

then it is sure that tobacco will be carcinogenic!

what catches up with a previous discussion I don't know if you remember, who tried to differentiate cancers due to tobacco and cancers due to radioactive elements (radio-nuclides) inhaled.


short .... you mean numbers I guess, so what is a simple, average irradiation: the particle in the lung that irradiates and kills everything around it, is reported relative to its size to the mass of the lung! therefore specialists in quantitative figures conclude: this is negligible!

but the qualitative ones conclude: it kills all around, and it accumulates.

so I laugh when we talk about radioactivity from the sea!
I hope someone understands out of pity; if you have not understood the nuclear lobby is causing trouble with the figures to say that it is negligible, by comparing the "natural" radioactivity of a soil in GAMMA rays in the Vosges or Brittany, or that of the sea : roll: or humans (which means NOTHING) with artificial radioactivity ALPHA.

a Bq = 1 disintegration ... whether beta or alpha it's the same isn't it? Gamma waves cannot be measured in Bq I think ...

Weren't there lessons on radioactivity at your school?

I have however put the links for ages, it doesn't surprise me that you cry when you hear me, if you still haven't understood ...

if you don't read it, AT LEAST read the page titles! -)
http://users.skynet.be/mauriceandre/

to say that you almost closed this subject it bores me ...

Well, anyway we knew that cigarettes were carcinogenic, ... but without knowing why! :?
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by Gregconstruct » 05/09/08, 14:34

Leo Maximus wrote:The problem with heavy smokers is that they are trapped in this m ... and they can't get rid of it. "We can't do without it", "It's a real pleasure" ... I try to explain to them that I too have smoked but that the pleasure of not smoking is in fact much greater than that To smoke.


I also smoke but I wouldn't have the nerve to complain about the blow of life if I spent such sums on something that is not a priority ...
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by Christophe » 05/09/08, 14:34

The debate seems to me to deviate on the harmfulness of tobacco ... which it is no longer to demonstrate ...

Although we can smoke 1 pack per day for 50 years and die at 95 years of "natural" death ...

Nothing is REGISTERED ... except maybe in our genes ... but that ... that's another story.

I quit smoking last January: that leaves more time to do "something else" ... and there is no more this crap of little way which no longer tells you: "when can I smoke the next one? ? "

This is especially what I noticed, for the rest as I do not do sports ...:D
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by Christophe » 05/09/08, 14:37

Gregconstruct wrote:I also smoke but I wouldn't have the nerve to complain about the blow of life if I spent such sums on something that is not a priority ...


You speak charles! Some smokers will dare to tell you in isolation and certainty that it is the fault of the cigarette sellers who incited them to smoke ... and to continue.

Has a murderer ever filed a complaint against the manufacturer of the weapon of his murder? I don't think ... well with tobacco it's the same ...
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by Leo Maximus » 05/09/08, 14:38

Gregconstruct wrote:
Leo Maximus wrote: I do not know if there is "organic" tobacco grown with organic fertilizers : Lol: . Fertilizers rich in phosphates like guano are not radioactive.

Perhaps in South American tobacco for high quality cigars!

It is true that a good Havana ... 8) But, hey, tobacco is useless if not to enrich profiteers.
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by Gregconstruct » 05/09/08, 14:41

Christophe wrote:
Gregconstruct wrote:I also smoke but I wouldn't have the nerve to complain about the blow of life if I spent such sums on something that is not a priority ...


You speak charles! Some smokers will dare to tell you in isolation and certainty that it is the fault of the cigarette sellers who incited them to smoke ... and to continue.

Has a murderer ever filed a complaint against the manufacturer of the weapon of his murder? I don't think ... well with tobacco it's the same ...


I never felt like the tobacco vendors had insisted on anything.
Cigarette makers are not murderers, they just produce on a large scale a product that has been consumed by man since time immemorial.
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by Gregconstruct » 05/09/08, 14:45

Leo Maximus wrote:It is true that a good Havana ... 8) But, hey, tobacco is useless if not to enrich profiteers.


if we follow this logic, we can take it for wine for example, or any pleasure product that is not essential to our survival!

So, a little tan ... We don't spit on it. A little Churchill N ° 3 or a Romeo and Juliet for example, it's nice with a nice little glass ...
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by Christophe » 05/09/08, 14:47

Gregconstruct wrote:I never felt like the tobacco vendors had insisted on anything.


You don't ... but there are some who think so ...
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by Gregconstruct » 05/09/08, 14:48

Christophe wrote:
Gregconstruct wrote:I never felt like the tobacco vendors had insisted on anything.


You don't ... but there are some who think so ...


Cons, there has always been and there will always be !!!!
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by Bibiphoque » 05/09/08, 14:55

Hello,
Some cigarretiers added components with the aim of increasing addiction, so to retain the "customer" without knowing it, it is a roundabout form of incentive.
Hiding the presence of polonium is another, even more perverse, it is a lie by omission.

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