Fruits and Vegetables "without pesticide residue" but not ORGANIC: what are we talking about?

[Christophe]

Crazy ... seen on the food site of a large distributor in France ... The melon "without pesticide residue" is not organic ... it's just WITHOUT pesticide residue!

Price: 230% of the melon with residue ... It's expensive to clean pesticides ...

See as well: agriculture / eat-5-pesticides-and-fungicides-per-day-t12648.html

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Echoing agriculture with "High environmental value" authorization of 30% of the weight of inputs in turnover (ratio of inputs in euros divided by turnover excluding CAP aid in euros) ... what a joke sinister!
In addition, they do not specify whether pesticide residues are measured on the bark or inside the melon ....

[Moindreffor]

Crazy ... seen on the food site of a large distributor in France ... The "healthy" melon is not organic ... just WITHOUT pesticide residues!

like what the "bio" takes lead in the wing, the pesticide free is perhaps more "true" than the "bio" without synthetic pesticides but "with" natural pesticides, but as long as we stay in the fuzzy, we will continue to play with words and in these cases, does lying by omission really mean lying? it's a matter of intellectual honesty that everyone can appreciate at their own level

[izentrop]

An organic market gardener told me yesterday that he had not found a suitable organic melon.
The varieties should be less addictive to nitrates.

[Exnihiloest]

 
Quite a mess for not much, resulting from the magical thought!
I have yet to see studies showing that eating organic has a health benefit compared to eating non-organic.

On the one hand, pesticides used in organic farming are less effective, so more is needed, and all the more so since, as they are also less varied, resistance in pests develops faster. And some are much nastier than glyphosate, especially copper.
On the other hand and this is the most important point, the vast majority of pesticides are naturalis what plants have developed to protect themselves.

Food pesticides (99,99% all natural)

The following study is concerned with the toxicological effects of exposure to synthetic chemicals, but considered in the context of exposure to natural chemicals.

The study explains that 99,99% (by weight) of pesticides in the American diet are chemicals [which does not mean "artificial"] that plants produce to defend themselves. In high dose animal carcinogenicity tests, 52 natural pesticides were tested. About half (27) are carcinogenic to rodents; these 27 are found in several common foods.

The study concludes that at low doses of most human exposures, the comparative dangers of synthetic pesticide residues are negligible.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2217210

You are scared for nothing, and you do not understand that the danger also and above all comes from your goddess, Nature.

[Christophe]

Crazy ... seen on the food site of a large distributor in France ... The "healthy" melon is not organic ... just WITHOUT pesticide residues!

like what the "bio" takes lead in the wing, the pesticide free is perhaps more "true" than the "bio" without synthetic pesticides but "with" natural pesticides, but as long as we stay in the fuzzy, we will continue to play with words and in these cases, does lying by omission really mean lying? it's a matter of intellectual honesty that everyone can appreciate at their own level

It is still expensive (in%) washing pesticides !!

Since you have to read guys well: residue of ... they say!

It means that both come from conventional agriculture ... and that one has been treated to get rid of pesticides ...

But where is the evidence?

[Christophe]

On the other hand and this is the most important point, the vast majority of pesticides are naturalis what plants have developed to protect themselves.

Arsenic, cyanide, nicotine ... it's natural ... even petroleum ... it's natural!

Then don't forget your adage: nature is shit!

Did you forget it ??

[Moindreffor]

Crazy ... seen on the food site of a large distributor in France ... The "healthy" melon is not organic ... just WITHOUT pesticide residues!

like what the "bio" takes lead in the wing, the pesticide free is perhaps more "true" than the "bio" without synthetic pesticides but "with" natural pesticides, but as long as we stay in the fuzzy, we will continue to play with words and in these cases, does lying by omission really mean lying? it's a matter of intellectual honesty that everyone can appreciate at their own level

It is still expensive (in%) washing pesticides !!

Since you have to read guys well: residue of ... they say!

It means that both come from conventional agriculture ... and that one has been treated to get rid of pesticides ...

But where is the evidence?

well as for the "organic" where are the proofs?
when in an "organic" food one looks for synthetic pesticides and that one does not find any, it seems miraculous, on the other hand as one does not look for natural pesticides, well one says that there are none

without residue, that does not mean washed, in any case it does not say that, it just means that cultivated in a more reasoned way by reducing the doses, there are no pesticide residues

afterwards it's like everything, each argument put forward engages only the one who puts it forward, and therefore whether it is the "organic" or "the conventional" on certain points they can join hands, they both maintain the vagueness , but the believers of the "organic" have more faith than those of the conventional therefore are ready to defend their beliefs more ardently

[Christophe]

well as for the "organic" where are the proofs?

when in an "organic" food one looks for synthetic pesticides and that one does not find any, it seems miraculous, on the other hand as one does not look for natural pesticides, well one says that there are none

You deflect the subject there, we are talking about BIO but a designation "without pesticide residue" justifying a coef. multiplier of 2.3, so I would like to know exactly what we are selling to the customer there!

ECOCERT certification seems quite draconian to me! It takes several years for a farm to go organic with regular checks ...

Obviously there are profiteers and dishonesty everywhere ... and organic certainly does not mean eco!

Seasonal fruits and vegetables from your local producer are more eco-friendly than organic ones from the other end of Europe ...

But that's not the debate here!

without residue, that does not mean washed, in any case it does not say that, it just means that cultivated in a more reasoned way by reducing the doses, there are no pesticide residues

You have no proof of this!

Without "RESIDUS OF" that means that there were some at one time and that they disappeared ... I can still read French!

Otherwise it would have marked WITHOUT PESTICIDES at all ...

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

We close our eyes, we cross our fingers and above all WE BELIEVE!
https://www.quechoisir.org/actualite-la ... se-n82235/

66,70% of non-organic fruits contained quantified pesticide residues (against 63,10% announced in monitoring plans mixing organic and non-organic)
45% of non-organic vegetables contained quantified pesticide residues (against 43,20% announced in monitoring plans mixing organic and non-organic)
For the whole Fruits + vegetables: 53,80% contained quantified pesticide residues (against 51,30% announced in the monitoring plans mixing organic and non-organic).

https://www.generations-futures.fr/actu ... -chiffres/
The report:

pesticide-residues-in-fruit-vegetables.pdf

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