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Re: Hoax, Infox, intox: how to check an info online? Video!




by izentrop » 30/09/23, 00:31

It's normal, they should take the opportunity to properly sanction the producers of "fake news" in the medical field as well...

Obviously the RN is excluded from this debate, given that they are great specialists in disinformation...
Eva Morel, from Quota Climat, defends herself from the outset: “At no time is there any question of banning climate skepticism in the media, it is just a question of fighting against disinformation on these subjects.”

Nicolas Dufrêne, from the Rousseau Institute, clarified: “There is still a lot of uncertainty about the consequences or the responses to climate change, but the fact that it is linked to human activity is clear, today, of a scientific consensus.” Therefore, “if comments made in the media knowingly denied this phenomenon, without reaction from a journalist to his face, then Arcom must be able to use its power to call to order, or even to sanction”. Before reminding: “Disinformation is already punishable by law. Our goal is that this can also be the case in the area of ​​climate change, in its most fundamental elements, such as the fact that human action has an effect on the climate.”
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by pacian- » 01/10/23, 17:44

sicetaitsimple wrote:where can we find this bill or this proposed law,
debate on cnews during the week!

izentrop wrote: It is not a question of banning climate skepticism in the media, it is just a question of fighting against disinformation on these subjects.”
“to fight against disinformation”: this is what the inquisition said to prevent heretics from doubting the dogmas of religion, the heretics of this dark era are the scientists of today!
There was also consensus that man would never fly, let alone go to the Moon. Research on climate already leads to 90% on the IPCC, is there really a need for an official comment of disapproval! :frown:
The truth of today is not always the truth of tomorrow.
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by Robob » 01/10/23, 19:16

izentrop wrote:It's normal, they should take the opportunity to properly sanction the producers of "fake news" in the medical field as well...

Obviously the RN is excluded from this debate, given that they are great specialists in disinformation...
Nicolas Dufrêne, from the Rousseau Institute, clarified: “There is still a lot of uncertainty about the consequences or the responses to climate change, but the fact that it is linked to human activity is clear, today, from a scientific consensus.
blah blah ...

Sanction how?

For example: According to the DREES, there are barely more deaths in France in 2020 than in 2015 for a comparable population (around 5000 more). I source my remarks with the table from the study of the state organization.

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How do you go about sanctioning all the liars who claimed a massacre linked to covid in 2020 and who continue to say so today? : Cheesy:

Exclude the RN from the debate? Not very democratic when they represent 41.5% of voters in the second round.Image

Otherwise for Nicolas Dufrêne, from the Rousseau Institute, (who is the badger?) I have this to relax him Image :


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Thanks to @NiusMarco for this graph which made me laugh.
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by Christophe » 02/10/23, 00:31

The last graph is out of date…0 what year is it? The year 2000 ?
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by izentrop » 02/10/23, 00:57

Outdated or not, this graph is just nonsense... For 850 years, the level of atmospheric CO000 has never reached that of 2 in memory.

Pacien and robob, your attitude is the same as the CEO of Total: thinking that "the climate is a problem of flow, while the fundamental problem is a problem of stock."
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by Robob » 02/10/23, 18:03

izentrop wrote:Outdated or not, this graph is just nonsense... For 850 years, the level of atmospheric CO000 has never reached that of 2 in memory.

Your memory is failing like your brain lobotomized by the information you have received for decades without questioning it.

Find me a source showing that CO2 levels have never been as high as they are today.. Not a crappy graph that stops at 200 years eh!

I'm just here to reassure the victims of "hoax, fake news, fake news": no, Europe is not going to turn into the Sahara by 2050. : roll:
(And yes, today we experienced a beautiful, exceptional sunny day for the start of October).
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by izentrop » 02/10/23, 19:38

robob wrote:
izentrop wrote:Outdated or not, this graph is just nonsense... For 850 years, the level of atmospheric CO000 has never reached that of 2 in memory.

Your memory is failing like your brain lobotomized by the information you have received for decades without questioning it.

Find me a source showing that CO2 levels have never been as high as they are today.. Not a crappy graph that stops at 200 years eh!
It's not very difficult though:
Well here they announce 1880 the beginning of the industrial era...
Image https://www.sudouest.fr/environnement/l ... 057961.php
To go back in time, there were, among other things, deep drilling in Greenland where air bubbles in the ice preserved portions of the atmosphere, the levels of different gases of which could be measured...
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https://connaissances.science/une-vague ... -et-alors/

If that doesn't satisfy you, there's no shortage of sources... A site full of information on the climate provided voluntarily by climatology specialists... https://argonautes.club/

It's been even longer...
It was therefore 3 million years ago, during the Pliocene, that the concentration of carbon dioxide exceeded 400 ppm for the very last time. During this period, temperatures were then 3 to 4°C higher and trees were growing in Antarctica. The level of the oceans was 15 to 20 meters higher. This CO2 had been captured by trees, plants, animals, and then buried with them. "What we've been doing for 150 years is digging it up and sending it back into the atmosphere," confirms Martin Siegert, professor of geoscience at Imperial College London.
https://www.nationalgeographic.fr/envir ... ntarctique.
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by Janic » 02/10/23, 20:40

what imagination the izmentor!
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by Ahmed » 02/10/23, 20:46

what imagination the izmentor!

When I think that it hasn't been check himself on site! : Wink:
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by sicetaitsimple » 02/10/23, 21:15

YAKA moin repieer spicyeverything!
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