Inconsistencies of the French administration

[culbuto]

waste and inconsistency actually
new college, brand new, all beautiful and the teachers tell me ...
since they do not trust the teachers to turn off when leaving, no button. And so when the brightness is too low, it turns on by itself. Except that when the teacher decides to play slides, no way, the thing makes it turn on automatically!
conversely, the absence of movements for a certain time causes the system to switch off the lamps. And so in winter the teachers must wave their arms every 2 minutes in front of the sensor, otherwise they will end up in the dark with the zouaves They recognize each other in stores by waving their arms
the corridor: making a long straight corridor is ugly, says the architect. So they designed a round corridor. impossible to monitor! because the kids posted at different levels warn their charming little friends doing their misdeeds of the arrival of a supervisor at the end of the corridor .......
all this in ZEP with muffles well as it should of course ......

[chatelot16]

to the architect! still a great breed of waster, specialist in making the most bizarre and non-functional public buildings possible

straight and square it's not beautiful and not expensive enough

[culbuto]

to the architect! still a great breed of waster, specialist in making the most bizarre and non-functional public buildings possible

straight and square it's not beautiful and not expensive enough

yes, but the final decision is the department, elected people, and our money to pay for all this.
another lived example: they decide to build a brand new hospital to replace the decrepit old one. And miraculously, they ask for the advice of caregivers, those who will have to use it. Except that they absolutely ignored our proposals
for example the dialysis service. Installed on the 1st floor of the old hospital, the pumps necessary for the devices make a hellish noise and require an enormous amount of energy because of this floor. So logically all the staff want dialysis on the ground floor. In the end they had fucked up dialysis in the 7th! after an epic fight with the head of the dialysis service, the service remained in the old hospital for lack of agreement

[Did67]

Again, do not get the wrong target: if the department is the client, these are private structures that design and build (architects with a flock of design offices) ...

The fact that the "specifications" are not precise enough is a "weak excuse": we could have the ambition to do better, instead of taking advantage of it to do anything!

[chatelot16]

the concept of specifications is wobbly

those who know nothing about it are asked more and more often to make a specification, and those who know must comply with it, even if they see that this specification contains unnecessary constraints and does not contain the real thing that should have been defined

when an individual needs to make a construction he can freely search for the one who seems competent to him to do it

when a community has a construction to do there is a lot of obligation to respect, tender procedures ... all these procedures do not even guarantee the competence of the one who will do the work ... these procedures rather it has the effect of pushing away all those who know how to do the job well but do not know how to do the paperwork well: the job is given to the one who knows how to do the paper best but does not know how to do the job

the case of the hospital of the previous message is characteristic: simple and logical method: we ask an architect to start to discuss with the current users of the hospital ... if the head of the hospital sees that the architect does not don't understand what a hospital is, we change architect until we find a good one

alas the current method is rather: we make a charge ... we transmit these specifications to different architect and we choose the project that pleases the best

the specification layer completely isolates the architect from the users, and we forget too much, obvious for users ... that the architect will have learned if he had been in direct contact ... but who are forgotten if he doesn’t there is no direct contact

[Gaston]

alas the current method is rather: we make a charge ... we transmit these specifications to different architect and we choose the project that pleases the best

Or the cheapest ...

the specification layer completely isolates the architect from the users, and we forget too much, obvious for users ... that the architect will have learned if he had been in direct contact ... but who are forgotten if he doesn’t there is no direct contact

+1

[Did67]

when an individual needs to make a construction he can freely search for the one who seems competent to him to do it

[Damn, I almost "edit" and destroy your post again, without wanting to; realized this after the incident I created]

But there are also individuals whose house is not what they expected, right ???? Or has major faults ??? Whose boiler does not work as we promised them ??? Whose photovoltaic panels do not produce what was promised ???

[Grelinette]

Here I have 2 administrative pearls!

As long as "we manage to keep calm and humor, with all the administrative anecdotes we can write a funny novel!"

1st pearl: As part of the development of a leisure center which has just been opened, an official request is made to install suitable sanitary facilities for the reception of disabled people ...

The answer is funny, the administration answers in 2 paragraphs:

1 °) "... the area in which the center is located is classified floodable with prohibition to exercise any leisure activity and reception of the public ..."

Note that the administrations concerned, namely, town hall, prefecture, dde, youth and sport, failed to specify this prohibition during the creation of the center yet subject to declaration! ...

2) concerning the arrangement of the sanitary facilities, "they are authorized provided they are carried out in existing buildings" ...
In short, it is forbidden but we still give you authorization, but have your puppies installed in a building, as soon as you have the idea to go put them in the middle of a field ....
(I have the copy of the mail for those who want to see it)

2nd pearl:
It is not the subject of a dispute between a body collecting social security contributions from the self-employed, whether they are civil servants or not. The said organization claimed a surplus of contribution but the concerned (me in this case ) considered that this extension was not justified. The mail exchanges lasted for months, and finally one morning I received an ugly mail entitled "Formal notice, last notice before seizure". Gloups! ... I was cooked and irremediably drawn into an endless spiral because I could not afford to pay this extension nevertheless significant by several thousand euros.

I spent a sleepless night wondering how I was going to get out of this Kafkaesque situation ... And then the next morning after receiving this "kill" mail, I received another mail from the same. organization, in RAR please ...

As much to say to you, that I hardly held on my legs when I started to open this 2nd mail ...

And there, I read, "After studying your file, we are pleased to send you herewith a check corresponding to an overpayment of your contributions"
I believed in a gag but there was indeed a check!

I immediately called the (kind) service of the organization which addressed this enchanting mail to me, first to thank them, and then to ask them why I had received a notice from the previous day ( naughty) service from home.
The employee, very kind, replied: "Ha ?? !!! .... tell me what service is it?" I tell him the name on the formal notice, and he replies "... it is the collection service which has not yet obtained the results of our checks ... don't move, they are in front of my office, I am going to tell them that they are stopping the seizure procedure concerning you .... (2 minutes later) Here you are sir it's done! everything is back in order now. Go bye sir, have a good day ... . ".

I stayed, several minutes, seated, phone in hand with the two letters in front of me, one for formal notice, the other for reimbursement!

[Grelinette]

Come on, I’m adding a last layer to explain to you why this contribution extension ... It’s just as technical as it is absurd!

When you set up as a self-employed person, you have to choose your subscription fund, in this case the organization to which you will be attached depending on your activity and which will inform the ad hoc contribution collection service .... And there it is that the obstacle course begins for certain activities.

To conclude:

- If you are a liberal profession, you go directly to the USSR: you sell know-how, a "work of the mind"

- if you are a trader, you go to the chamber of commerce:
you buy on one side, and you sell on the other with a margin

- if you are an artisan, you go to the chamber of trades: you buy a raw material which you transform and which you sell with added value

- if you are a farmer, you go to the chamber of agriculture

- if you are an artist, it's more complicated and I don't know where you are going, but still elsewhere!

In short, there are professions straddling all of these schemes.
For example, photographers:
- they sell stuff (film, cameras and photo accessories), so they are traders
- they develop films, reception of a raw material (films or digital supports) which they transform to sell a new one: the impressions of the stereotypes, and they are therefore considered as craftsmen
- and as long as they take beautiful pictures of the landscapes they sell, they are artists!

And bin they are not in the m .... when they must declare their activity and choose the activity which will be the most important in turnover, but attention must not be mistaken and it is not easy to say which CA of each of the activities will be the most important for the coming year, bearing in mind that a significant turnover on an activity is not necessarily a sign that the activity is profitable (eg the sale of equipment which figures and inflates the CA but which does not necessarily mean a significant margin and profitability).

This is what happened to me: the administration changed the nature of my activity and applied a new contribution rate.

[Gaston]

1 °) "... the area in which the center is located is classified floodable with prohibition to exercise any leisure activity and reception of the public ..."

Note that the administrations concerned, namely, town hall, prefecture, dde, youth and sport, failed to specify this prohibition during the creation of the center yet subject to declaration! ...

One can imagine that the classification in flood zone is after the creation of the center

2) concerning the arrangement of the sanitary facilities, "they are authorized provided they are carried out in existing buildings" ...
In short, it is forbidden but we still give you authorization, but have your puppies installed in a building, as soon as you have the idea to go put them in the middle of a field ....

Buildings existing, therefore prohibition to build a building to put these toilets.