Travel: home to work journeys (INSEE Statistics)

[Gaston]

But you applied which formula because for 5 to 10 km I would have done 25% * 7.5 = 187.5% .km

I took the lower bound of each interval because for "more than 80", we do not really know what average value to take ...

However, I took the duration figures

With those in km, it gives:


And we see that the 8% who cover more than 80km cover as many km as the 50% who cover less than 25km

[Christophe]

Ah, there I am!

Like what 2 brains is always better than one!

The peak of "+80" becomes even more obvious!

[Forhorse]

The current situation is not frankly favorable for short distances.
If I take my example (which is certainly a little extreme and particular) I drive almost 2000km per month to go to work.
I can't find anything closer, and everything I find is less well paid on the one hand (between 200 and 300 € net less monthly), and precarious on the other hand (interim or CDD while I am on CDI )
the reduction in transport costs for the little difference in terms of kilometers of job offers that I find does not even compensate for a quarter of the lost wages.
And since I moved, I can not even deduct these expenses under the real expenses of the taxes (I move away from my work, it is a "personal convenience" therefore prohibition to deduct these expenses)

[bamboo]

Not huge, not huge it quickly says ...it's almost 1 in 10 workers all the same !!

In fact, it is rather 1 in 15 workers (6.4% according to the table http://www.insee.fr/fr/ffc/ipweb/ip1129/ip1129.xls

For my part, I find an average of 174km for the 6.4% who cover the greatest number of km.
Suffice to say that there are not many who do this by car every day: either they are in the train, or they sleep at the hotel on weekdays.

Calculations made using INSEE tables (Data graph 2 + the fact that the average distance for all workers is 25.9km (Tab2))

[Christophe]

And since I moved, I can not even deduct these expenses under the real expenses of the taxes (I move away from my work, it is a "personal convenience" therefore prohibition to deduct these expenses)

Uh? I don't understand why ... can you detail?

[Gaston]

The peak of "+80" becomes even more obvious!

Certainly, but the peak remains "virtual".

If we continued to slice "80 to 85", "85 to 90", ... we would see a slow growth of the curve.

[Christophe]

Yes that's for sure (we might have a 2nd "wave") ... but the integration of the 2 curves (= ecological impact) would give a fairly close result I think ...

[bamboo]

With those in km, it gives:


And we see that the 8% who cover more than 80km cover as many km as the 50% who cover less than 25km

For my part I find a total of 1116 km.% For the more than 80km.

To give all the figures, taking the middle of the zones (no graph, sorry):

from 0,1 to 5 => 39.6
from 5 to 10 => 192.2
from 10 to 15 => 211.3
from 15 to 20 => 192.7
from 20 to 25 => 164.0
from 25 to 30 => 136.7
from 30 to 35 => 109.2
from 35 to 40 => 85.1
from 40 to 45 => 69.7
from 45 to 50 => 58.9
from 50 to 55 => 48.8
from 55 to 60 => 41.4
from 60 to 65 => 35.6
from 65 to 70 => 33.1
from 70 to 75 => 29.7
from 75 to 80 => 25.5
over 80 => 1116.2

[bamboo]

Yes that's for sure (we might have a 2nd "wave") ... but the integration of the 2 curves (= ecological impact) would give a fairly close result I think ...

Yes and no, it seems difficult to me that it is directly the ecological impact: as indicated above, the INSEE figures give an average of 174km.
For me (but this is only my opinion), that necessarily means that some people do not sleep at home (either at the hotel or they have a 2nd apartment)

[Forhorse]

And since I moved, I can not even deduct these expenses under the real expenses of the taxes (I move away from my work, it is a "personal convenience" therefore prohibition to deduct these expenses)

Uh? I don't understand why ... can you detail?

That's how it is, that's what the tax code says.

Assume that you live 12km from your work, for tax purposes you will therefore declare 24km per day worked (if it is more interesting than the standard abatement, but that is another problem)
Now you are moving for various reasons (coming from a child so need a bigger house, want a quieter area, etc.)
Your new house is now 20km from your place of work, for taxes you must continue to declare 24km per day and not 40, because this distance is made for personal convenience ... unless you can prove that there was no accommodation available within a 12km radius of your workplace, and you were forced to leave your old accommodation, which is almost impossible.

of course it only applies if it is you who moves, and not your job (transfer, change of premises, etc ...)