On the “Round Up” bottle, it is now marked: “Without Glyphosate”
Apparently even the manufacturer saw that there was a nasty problem
But not yet “the funny ones” who live in the last century ...
Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate
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Ah there is at least 1 following!
Monsanto's erzats may be worse! What are they besides!
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Because you think we didn't see him when we were talking about vinegar?Christophe wrote:Ah there is at least 1 following!
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What is it for you: 60g / l of acetic acid? well it's vinegar at 6 ° https://www.marketonweb.fr/roundup-cont ... erbant-5-l
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izentrop wrote:Because you think we didn't see him when we were talking about vinegar?Christophe wrote:Ah there is at least 1 following!
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What is it for you: 60g / l of acetic acid? well it's vinegar at 6 ° https://www.marketonweb.fr/roundup-cont ... erbant-5-l
Not really, no. 60% is 600g / l.
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Ah yes, you know, as usual.GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:Not really, no. 60% is 600g / l.
60g for 1000g is a good 6%7 ° means that there am = 7g of acetic acid in 100g of vinegar, i.e. 100mL of vinegar if we consider that
vinegar is an aqueous solution whose density is close to that of water. http://www.pontonniers-physique.fr/TS/2 ... greCor.pdf
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izentrop wrote:Ah yes, you know, as usual.GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:Not really, no. 60% is 600g / l.60g for 1000g is a good 6%7 ° means that there am = 7g of acetic acid in 100g of vinegar, i.e. 100mL of vinegar if we consider that
vinegar is an aqueous solution whose density is close to that of water. http://www.pontonniers-physique.fr/TS/2 ... greCor.pdf
Yes, and therefore not 60%. Pure acetic acid contains more than 99% acid. If the acid is 100% pure and its specific gravity is 1,06, then 1l of acid is 1060 g. It freezes around 17 °. Do the math to come up with a 60% solution, electrician.
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Have you looked at the commercial link I put? The last one that gave an opinion has the same language as you
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Izy changes the subject, as on his obsessive thread ...
Ah they are strong at Monsanto, they sell galore vinegar at 6 ° * (45 cts / l on average) at the price of a good wine!
* barely 60g / l indeed, the scam is so huge!
Ah they are strong at Monsanto, they sell galore vinegar at 6 ° * (45 cts / l on average) at the price of a good wine!
* barely 60g / l indeed, the scam is so huge!
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These scandals that changed the world: glyphosate, from dream to nightmare
It is formidably effective. Glyphosate has saved millions of farmers' time by spraying their fields with a product that can remove all unwanted vegetation in a jiffy. Having become a benchmark throughout the world through Roundup, glyphosate has nevertheless fallen from its pedestal. All week long, Novethic looks back on scandals that have pushed manufacturers to change technology.
It is the most famous herbicide in the world. Glyphosate, patented and marketed in 1974 by Monsanto, is capable of destroying all forms of vegetation. Used as an active agent in Roundup, the flagship pesticide of the American group, glyphosate quickly won over farmers. This miracle recipe to spray on the fields without having to target the weeds saves precious time. Very quickly, the use of Roundup exploded. The crops themselves are starting to lose their resistance to this total herbicide. Monsanto then developed resistant plants called "Roundup Ready".
With its very attractive price, the pesticide is spreading in fields all over the world. Falling into the public domain in 2000, it becomes the best-selling on the planet, farmers are addicted to it. "I haven't plowed for 22 years, it's a real time saver in mechanization, in fuel consumption, and carbon is stored in the organic matter that remains on the surface", testifies Thierry Moreau, dairy farmer, in a report from France 3. But a stone comes to stop the machine so well oiled which brings considerable profits to Monsanto.
A re-authorization under high voltage
In 2015, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), an agency of the World Health Organization, classified glyphosate as a probable carcinogen. This news disrupts the reauthorization of this substance in Europe when its license expires at the end of June 2016. The battle between the States is fierce. In France, while the ministers of Agriculture, Stéphane Travert, and the Ecological Transition, Nicolas Hulot, show differences, the government is proposing a renewal of only three years, against the fifteen years requested by Monsanto.
But Germany is protecting its interests, at a time when its chemical giant Bayer is just in the process of buying Monsanto. Usually abstaining on the issue, Germany tips the scales and glyphosate is renewed for five years in the area. Emmanuel Macron then promises the French to ban the herbicide no later than November 2020 in France. The President will fail to keep his promise. Justifying a lack of alternative, the government announces restrictions, but not the expected revolution.
No substitute miracle recipe
In November 2020, the French government released a budget of seven million euros to speed up research on alternatives. But there is no miracle recipe. It seems impossible to replace glyphosate with a biologic that is as effective. Other techniques, sometimes preventive, partially replace the product, such as false sowing, mulching, crop rotation… Researchers are also thinking of mechanical means, but these affect the structure of the soil and participate in its erosion.
Today, Bayer is literally overwhelmed by legal threats with over 125 complaints in the United States regarding the use of Roundup. The group collapsed on the stock market, losing half of its value since its merger with Monsanto. And these lawsuits are costing him dearly. Group CEO Werner Baumann recently mentioned a possible upcoming suspension of sales of the weedkiller to individuals.
Marina Fabre, @fabre_marina
https://www.novethic.fr/actualite/envir ... 50058.html
It is formidably effective. Glyphosate has saved millions of farmers' time by spraying their fields with a product that can remove all unwanted vegetation in a jiffy. Having become a benchmark throughout the world through Roundup, glyphosate has nevertheless fallen from its pedestal. All week long, Novethic looks back on scandals that have pushed manufacturers to change technology.
It is the most famous herbicide in the world. Glyphosate, patented and marketed in 1974 by Monsanto, is capable of destroying all forms of vegetation. Used as an active agent in Roundup, the flagship pesticide of the American group, glyphosate quickly won over farmers. This miracle recipe to spray on the fields without having to target the weeds saves precious time. Very quickly, the use of Roundup exploded. The crops themselves are starting to lose their resistance to this total herbicide. Monsanto then developed resistant plants called "Roundup Ready".
With its very attractive price, the pesticide is spreading in fields all over the world. Falling into the public domain in 2000, it becomes the best-selling on the planet, farmers are addicted to it. "I haven't plowed for 22 years, it's a real time saver in mechanization, in fuel consumption, and carbon is stored in the organic matter that remains on the surface", testifies Thierry Moreau, dairy farmer, in a report from France 3. But a stone comes to stop the machine so well oiled which brings considerable profits to Monsanto.
A re-authorization under high voltage
In 2015, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), an agency of the World Health Organization, classified glyphosate as a probable carcinogen. This news disrupts the reauthorization of this substance in Europe when its license expires at the end of June 2016. The battle between the States is fierce. In France, while the ministers of Agriculture, Stéphane Travert, and the Ecological Transition, Nicolas Hulot, show differences, the government is proposing a renewal of only three years, against the fifteen years requested by Monsanto.
But Germany is protecting its interests, at a time when its chemical giant Bayer is just in the process of buying Monsanto. Usually abstaining on the issue, Germany tips the scales and glyphosate is renewed for five years in the area. Emmanuel Macron then promises the French to ban the herbicide no later than November 2020 in France. The President will fail to keep his promise. Justifying a lack of alternative, the government announces restrictions, but not the expected revolution.
No substitute miracle recipe
In November 2020, the French government released a budget of seven million euros to speed up research on alternatives. But there is no miracle recipe. It seems impossible to replace glyphosate with a biologic that is as effective. Other techniques, sometimes preventive, partially replace the product, such as false sowing, mulching, crop rotation… Researchers are also thinking of mechanical means, but these affect the structure of the soil and participate in its erosion.
Today, Bayer is literally overwhelmed by legal threats with over 125 complaints in the United States regarding the use of Roundup. The group collapsed on the stock market, losing half of its value since its merger with Monsanto. And these lawsuits are costing him dearly. Group CEO Werner Baumann recently mentioned a possible upcoming suspension of sales of the weedkiller to individuals.
Marina Fabre, @fabre_marina
https://www.novethic.fr/actualite/envir ... 50058.html
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just a clarification! the real vinegar contains acetic acid due to fermentation and not pure like all organic products. 100% chemically reconstituted acetic acid is a toxic product not recognized by living things including plants!
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