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Re: Manufacturing a car and the environment, figures!




by Macro » 16/04/21, 12:07

On the one with minimacro 1 reprogrammed in the West Indian ... Oil tanker smoke at the slightest blow of gas ....
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by Christophe » 16/04/21, 12:29

You are a naughty Macro! : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

Watch out in 10 years it will be the green gulag for you, your family and your descendants over 2 generations! : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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by moinsdewatt » 17/04/21, 17:48

Christophe wrote:Ah the manipulation of numbers is quite an art:

A) On the one hand we have this:

Christophe plus wrote:- Water: in 10 years, almost 50% reduction to 640 L per car.


B) On the other this:

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C) 640 L versus 35 L is more than an approximation error ... : Mrgreen:

The 1st can only be the final assembly, the 2nd everything from A to Z (from "mine to road"?)?

Mystery ... in short, having the eco-balance of a car is not yet won ...


who says better ?

400 liters here:
https://www.partagedeseaux.info/Bilan-e ... rnal%20%3B

I imagine that it is not just the assembly, but also with the realization of all the parts and metal shell ......

in Wikipedia I have:
"By some estimates, the production of a car uses more than 39 US gallons of water (000 liters) of water"
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empreinte_eau
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Re: Manufacturing a car and the environment, figures!




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 17/04/21, 19:23

Considering the weight of American cars, it's not surprising.
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by Christophe » 16/06/22, 19:13

I post it here :) Macro should not contradict too much!

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by phil59 » 16/06/22, 21:03

May be a bad example to put a Renault .... : Arrow: : Arrow: : Arrow: : Arrow: : Arrow: : Arrow: : Arrow:
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by Remundo » 16/06/22, 21:10

and these old cars can ethanolize not too badly for some

or else in frying oil for Diesel.

Ecologically, it's much better than a new lithium tank that boozes on nucleo-gaso-carbon in the world...

and it costs less.
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by phil59 » 16/06/22, 21:58

I gave several times 100 km on LPG.

A few tens of thousand km in recycled frying oil and E85, no more diesel in the car.

About ten thousand km in E85 on a 92 car, without pb.
A little also on a "carb".

And evolution has been the VE, concomitant with the rest

Finally only in VE .... in 2018.
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Re: Manufacturing a car and the environment, figures!




by Macro » 17/06/22, 09:55

Christophe wrote:I post it here :) Macro should not contradict too much!

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To have had an R25 serie 1 .... Well ... indestructible was not the word .... Very fragile rear suspension spring, rapid rotting at the level of the rear axle reinforcement on the body, front auto seats breakable , some operations (changing the front shock absorbers) could only be done with very specialized equipment (a mounting that was difficult to improvise, to be put in place on the car to compress the springs) front axles with very generous double wishbones in clnc clncs and glings various glings. Mine was an atmo diesel and consumed about 6l / 100 before the drop in sulfur levels 6.5l / 100 after, the fiber shocks exploded at the slightest shock the steering wheel was bio degradable as well as some of the plastics and interior fabrics, Leprous exterior varnish after 12 years ... And in terms of sensations ... Indeed when you were at 130 on the highway .... You knew that you were driving fast (with this engine) ...
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Re: Manufacturing a car and the environment, figures!




by Christophe » 17/06/22, 10:08

Yes agree the illustration is badly chosen!!

Any car would have been better than a French one...except Lada! : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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