[Abuse] Limit the duration to edit his messages

[dedeleco]

citro notes with regret:

Sometimes I lose my messages before I post them for good ...

then to avoid, preventively, before viewing or sending, do CtrlA, then Ctrl C and recover with Ctrl V.

and also use the free ClipboardRecorder program which keeps all your CtrlC past for days on file.

[plasmanu]

Not dedicated it's ctrl X then Ctrl Alt Supp 2 times
Try it. It works well.

[gegyx]

Even if I understand that the editorial quality can be affected.
In any case, this will constrain some to turn their fingers seven times before attacking the keyboard ... and that's not a shame!

completely agree!
writing anything and being able to delete afterwards is not correct

Exactly! Or even ... downright dishonest!

So the good of this general measure is to prevent dishonest alterations!

It seems to me that this concerns 4 people, to break everything…

I don't see why, the writing becoming immediate, passionate, the level would improve…
The insults will remain

In short, because the non-standard investigators are not moderate, we restrict those who respect the forum and who do it for the best.
...

(It reminds me so much of current politics…)

[Christophe]

I thought until then that a topic was constructed so that other interested people could read it later.
Solid files with different opinions for each subject.

And it is indeed the case !!!

It is necessary to compare a subject to a televised debate: what would happen if the speakers could change their intervention via a post montage? This could completely change the message of the debate!

Somewhere this is called manipulation ...

Does that also impact the preview of messages before they are posted.

Not at all. You can edit and preview as much as you want (I think my personal record for writing a message is within 1 hour ...)

In your case what I would do is edit in a text file and post when it's ready. I do it sometimes for long messages ...

[Christophe]

I don't see why, the writing becoming immediate, passionate, the level would improve…

Maybe because we will be more careful ... already said above!
The best is to see how it goes on the ground right?

The insults will remain

Yes this is part of bad behavior ...

Insults are less of a problem (moderation) than bad faith behavior ...

Frankly, except for conflicts between 2 or 3 "hot blood", I find the atmosphere rather good here (especially since we are on a sensitive subject: go see some nuclear debate on others forums ecolo ...) and quite absent trolls in general!

In short, because the non-standard investigators are not moderate, we restrict those who respect the forum and who do for the best.…

There is a moderation ... obviously we can always do better ...
The ban of a member is, except troll, is an act which must remain rare! If it's for a regular with hundreds of messages (there were 2 or 3) it's sad ...

(It reminds me so much of current politics…)

That's bad ...

[I Citro]

Does that also impact the preview of messages before they are posted.

Not at all. You can edit and preview as much as you want (I think my personal record for writing a message is within 1 hour ...)
In your case what I would do is edit in a text file and post when it's ready. I do it sometimes for long messages ...

Well, I had lost this habit since my internet connection had become more reliable, I'll get back to it.
I often put more than an hour between the start of writing and the time when I post my final message after preview, if I am interrupted by other tasks.

[Christophe]

if I am interrupted by other tasks.

Ah too?

[Obamot]

Even if I understand that the editorial quality can be affected.
In any case, this will constrain some to turn their fingers seven times before attacking the keyboard ... and that's not a shame!

completely agree!
writing anything and being able to delete afterwards is not correct

Exactly! Or even ... downright dishonest!

So the good of this general measure is to prevent dishonest alterations!

It seems to me that this concerns 4 people, to break everything…

I don't see why, the writing becoming immediate, passionate, the level would improve…
The insults will remain

In short, because the non-standard investigators are not moderate, we restrict those who respect the forum and who do it for the best.
...

(It reminds me so much of current politics…)

It is true that for those who have the habit - unpleasant for the reader, we can also agree - to edit their messages after publication (as often me), it's just a blow to take, not very bad as a measure. ..

On the other hand - since it was visible when reading - those who published then edited, did so without thinking badly and without ulterior motives and in complete transparency so that everyone could read. But if that can avoid hypothetical "voluntary manipulations", why not ...

[Macro]

On some forum you can't even edit your posts ...

On another I personally edited my 6000 messages to erase all the content and leave only a smiley following a personal desire to no longer be part of this community (it took me 4 days and almost as many nights , and, despite my removal from the said forum I continue to receive emails from this one .. So there are always traces) ... no longer editing is one thing. Being able to opt out of a group and empty your drawers should be (and I believe it is possible) a right.

By the way for spelling mistakes, mine are underlined in red as and when writing a post ...

Ouff I was able to edit it ... I wanted to add a little off topic ... Regarding the cite function ... Some of them use treacherously by only citing the authors partially ... What effectively denatures completely the original comments ... In the case of more or less heated discussions, these comments removed from their context several pages (see several months) after, very often only make things worse ....

[Obamot]

Absolutely.

But a quote -is- a quote, it does not need to reflect the entire text, hence the fact that abuses are tempting on the part of some twisted minds ... This is why a journalistic rule would like us to put two hooks with three small dots in the middle [...] as soon as we removed text which was not required to understand the content, and sometimes in the same line of thinking, to underline a slip or even report an omission, etc.

Besides it allows me to make two small requests going in the direction of more transparency, to complete what you say Macro and avoid it to a large extent, it would be nice to see appear:
— date and time to which the original message was posted and from which the quote is taken (this would make it possible to verify a possible manipulation of date without tedious research).
- and to be even clearer, add in the same quote: the small interactive square containing the link, which allows you to find the passage quoted with a single click.
As it appears in the header in our original messages, to the left of the indication:


Not to mention that it would save crazy time for mods ... and calm the nerves.