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by Capt_Maloche » 10/09/08, 11:19

I don't see where I'm wrong, you say the same thing as me : Cheesy:

and in addition I have the last word

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by Christophe » 10/09/08, 11:33

It is not false...

We just take the problem from a different end: you on the electric power side ... me on the physical side ...

I still have doubts about the 0.22 Ohm ...

At a temperature of 20 ºC:

Pure water has a resistivity of around 25 MOhm.cm, (0,04 microS.cm-1)
The water obtained by demineralization commonly has a resistivity of 18 MOhm.cm (water necessary for the manufacture of integrated circuits), (0,06
The drinking water of the urban distribution network has a resistivity of the order of 1000 to 5000 MOhm.cm (200 to 1000 microS.cm-1): 90% of the withdrawals served in France.

Notes: The resistivity of drinking water is subject to variations like all its other characteristics: the range proposed is only indicative.
Decree 89-3 on water intended for human consumption (EDCH), does not indicate a limit of conductivity, however the maximum salinity limit is 1,5 gL-1 (dry residue at 180ºC), this which corresponds approximately to a conductivity of 2000 microS.cm-1.
The Guide Level of the EWC directive indicates: 400 microS.cm-1.

Furthermore, it is considered that water with a conductivity greater than 1500 microS.cm-1 is difficult to use for irrigation needs (salinization of the soils which make them unsuitable for cultivation).


Found on: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/bernard.pir ... t-elec.htm

Do some tests by taking a well salted water is rho = 1500 microS.cm and say 1m² of plate

R = rho * L / S

with rho = resistivity (in Ohm.m or Ohm.cm)
The space of the plates (m or cm)
S = area (m² or cm²)

L = R * S / rho = 0.22 * 10 000 / 667 = 3.3 cm

Ah well I said nothing with 1m² and well salted water it is within the limit of the possible!
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by Capt_Maloche » 10/09/08, 12:39

AAAHHH! you become reasonable

interresting formulation:
R = rho * L / S

with rho = resistivity (in Ohm.m or Ohm.cm)
The space of the plates (m or cm)
S = area (m² or cm²)

L = R * S / rho = 0.22 * 10 000 / 667 = 3.3 cm
where are the 667 ohms / cm coming from?

a priori, a normally mineralized water with a conductivity between 2000 and 4000 Ohms / cm, a pure water is greater than 30 000 Ohms / cm, a little acid can easily lower the conductivity to 500 Ohms / cm.

which becomes with stainless steel plates of 25x25cm
L = R * S / rho = 0.22x625 / 500 = 0.27 cm COOL! I was considering 3mm
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by Capt_Maloche » 10/09/08, 12:47

this topic on continuous electrolysis on WATER TORCH
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by Christophe » 10/09/08, 16:26

Capt_Maloche wrote:AAAHHH! you become reasonable


Pffft!!

Capt_Maloche wrote:where are the 667 ohms / cm coming from?


It is the reverse of 1500 microS.cm

Capt_Maloche wrote:a priori, a normally mineralized water with a conductivity between 2000 and 4000 Ohms / cm, a pure water is greater than 30 000 Ohms / cm, a little acid can easily lower the conductivity to 500 Ohms / cm.


Yes except that adding products your water will cost you more than what you want ...

Capt_Maloche wrote:which becomes with stainless steel plates of 25x25cm L = R * S / rho = 0.22x625 / 500 = 0.27 cm COOL! I was considering 3mm


Hihihihi thank you who?
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