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was the era or the treadmill were used, there was also the rut or horses circling ... and the treadmill was criticized as tiring more horses than the manege
I see a defect in the principle of the treadmill: the slope is constant, therefore constant speed the horse should provide constant power if the machine train is a lower power rate increases, unless there is a regulator with brake
if we made a horizontal treadmill by putting a necklace like the horse to pull a cart there would be this problem: the horse would provide just the effort required by the machine: it would end like when he pulls a cart: provided rather weak effort when enough strength and only when to
to use only the necklace without slope draw would have the carpet of the treadmill is longer with a variable slope: if the power is low the horse remains the bottom or it's almost horizontal, and when the power increases it rises or the slope is stronger: as a squirrel cage
I see a defect in the principle of the treadmill: the slope is constant, therefore constant speed the horse should provide constant power if the machine train is a lower power rate increases, unless there is a regulator with brake
if we made a horizontal treadmill by putting a necklace like the horse to pull a cart there would be this problem: the horse would provide just the effort required by the machine: it would end like when he pulls a cart: provided rather weak effort when enough strength and only when to
to use only the necklace without slope draw would have the carpet of the treadmill is longer with a variable slope: if the power is low the horse remains the bottom or it's almost horizontal, and when the power increases it rises or the slope is stronger: as a squirrel cage
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chatelot16 wrote:... If we made a horizontal treadmill by putting a necklace like the horse to pull a cart there would be this problem: the horse would provide just the effort required by the machine: it would end like when he pulls a cart : provided a fairly low effort when enough strength and only when to ...
This is interesting as noticed but I think designers have the treadmill of thinking and probably test the 2 systems.
Already just the fact that the horse advances on an inclined plane makes it possible to put it in place without having to equip it with all its harness (we say "garnish"), and it is already a saving of time for it. man and undoubtedly more comfort for the horse.
One can also ask for us with walkers apartment (which certainly has an engine ...): but is it more efficient to walk on an incline or to focus on a fixed point? ...
bare slope or flat belt with? ... This is the big question!
At first glance I think the slope already compensates the friction forces due to the weight of the walker. (I am tempted to experiment with an old Walker Recycling but it's still a substantial DIY).
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In fact, I think just the slope to force the horse to move forward alone: it will snap on the bar in front of him and walk to stay nearby.
On the flat the horse would stop constantly ... if I may say, without making pun!
On the flat the horse would stop constantly ... if I may say, without making pun!
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I have already made experience with a treadmill and a dynamo, and it confirms what I have described
if the horse is not tied with a constant slope, slope must be sufficient for the maximum power required by the machine and when the power of the engine decreases, the speed increases and the horse would fall down if it going fast enough
if the power required by the engine decreases one simple solution is to limit the speed by a brake: completely stupid
if the goal is to make electricity an alternative would be a variable speed: when the need for power decreases the regulation system decreases the speed: the horse continues to do a constant force, but sits by advancing slower .. . but there is no simple solution to the mechanical era for this variable speed
the treadmill has not been developed because it was too late: the locomobile took place
if it was necessary to finish developing this idea I think that longer belt with variable slope, or the horse will find alone the right position would be well
Another solution for a not too long carpet, variable slope with a cruise control if it slowed because marchine require more power a bailer increases the slope ... if the power decreases the regulator decreases the slope to the horse to rest oneself
this kind of controller is a very long time for the water turbine in the mill: a measure centrifugal speed regulator and control a hydraulic system that has enough force to open or close the water came
if the horse is not tied with a constant slope, slope must be sufficient for the maximum power required by the machine and when the power of the engine decreases, the speed increases and the horse would fall down if it going fast enough
if the power required by the engine decreases one simple solution is to limit the speed by a brake: completely stupid
if the goal is to make electricity an alternative would be a variable speed: when the need for power decreases the regulation system decreases the speed: the horse continues to do a constant force, but sits by advancing slower .. . but there is no simple solution to the mechanical era for this variable speed
the treadmill has not been developed because it was too late: the locomobile took place
if it was necessary to finish developing this idea I think that longer belt with variable slope, or the horse will find alone the right position would be well
Another solution for a not too long carpet, variable slope with a cruise control if it slowed because marchine require more power a bailer increases the slope ... if the power decreases the regulator decreases the slope to the horse to rest oneself
this kind of controller is a very long time for the water turbine in the mill: a measure centrifugal speed regulator and control a hydraulic system that has enough force to open or close the water came
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I doubt this is a very frolicsome activity for our four-legged friends ...
The work is a specific invention in a single animal species that suffers a lot besides: why harp on not pretentious species for a penny but have the intelligence not spend their energy as necessary or fun things ?
The work is a specific invention in a single animal species that suffers a lot besides: why harp on not pretentious species for a penny but have the intelligence not spend their energy as necessary or fun things ?
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Re: A natural energy that yearns!
Grelinette wrote:Hello everybody
It was a long time since I had bothered you with my favorite subject ...
Video of an energy that prances (Source: website hippotese)
This video of the machine's manufacturer is even more compelling given the number of applications ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kV1nJwWNos
hi Grelinette
missing a flywheel and regulator!
When he canine traction?
dogs we need exercise, like humans,
and it is more utilitarian than giving exercise his dog by making run after his car! while it might take you.
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I went to a recement hypodrome has Montignac Charente on: it shows a rut powered electric motor I guess it's for echauffement ... poor horse, what they are made to do
before the steam engine there were manege to operate certain machine
as soon as the steam engine was available it was glimpse that it was more profitable than horses
we continued to use the horses to pull the cart because the steam engine could not get there ... but running a horse around in circles was a waste
put a horse on a treadmill is even worse waste if the treadmill is wrong damn
before the steam engine there were manege to operate certain machine
as soon as the steam engine was available it was glimpse that it was more profitable than horses
we continued to use the horses to pull the cart because the steam engine could not get there ... but running a horse around in circles was a waste
put a horse on a treadmill is even worse waste if the treadmill is wrong damn
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