The Case of the Century: Warming up the Tribunal!

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Re: The Case of the Century: Warming up the Tribunal!




by wirbelwind262 » 24/12/18, 00:02

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Janic wrote:I do not know Chouard, so without opinion, but this article of the Parisian gives no reference of antisemitism of the character.


Absolutely! This is a relay of gossip, unworthy of journalism!


Franck Lepage [Conference Inculture (s)] explained it in a video


https://www.francetvinfo.fr/economie/transports/gilets-jaunes/qui-est-etienne-chouard-chantre-du-referendum-d-initiative-citoyenne-et-coqueluche-des-gilets-jaunes_3097123.html
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by Christophe » 24/12/18, 01:31

Thank you Wind it allows to see more clearly this little video! And this invalidates all the gossip around Chouard!
He defends only the freedom of expression !!!

I heard correctly? Chouard is also a paraglider of genius?
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by Janic » 24/12/18, 09:09

Absolutely! This is a relay of gossip, unworthy of journalism!
unfortunately journalism and gossip (or fake news) tend to become synonyms ... in the areas I know best! 8)
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by sen-no-sen » 24/12/18, 12:01

Rare are the characters to instill sympathy in both extreme camps, and Etienne Chouard actually part of it.
So when a man in are kind starts talking RIC, and after the success of his writings on the NO in the referendum of 2005, one can understand that it is necessary to demonize it at all costs at the risk of ridicule.

The political class plays the role of interface between the economy and consumers, set up a RICis risking the loss of control, something unbearable in its end-of-cycle periods.
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 24/12/18, 16:44

sen-no-sen wrote:Rare are the characters to instill sympathy in both extreme camps, and Etienne Chouard actually part of it.
So when a man in are kind starts talking RIC, and after the success of his writings on the NO in the referendum of 2005, one can understand that it is necessary to demonize it at all costs at the risk of ridicule.


The political class as a whole (but not in its majority) became discredited after the referendum of 2005.

May this time bomb fart in their faces today ...

Let's hope that such a denial of democracy can not happen again. Image
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by Ahmed » 24/12/18, 18:37

Sen-no-sen, you write:
The "warming in court" is a bit of an appendix to the "climate marches".
The problematic here is related to the plaintiffs' naivety, we have the impression that for them the reduction of the predation of the industrial societies on the ecosystems would be solely in the hands of our leaders.
It does away with the complex workings linking economy and lifestyle, ecology and politics.

I am obviously in general agreement with all of your message, but I would add an important nuance: the orientations of the industrial mode of production do not simply result from the action of consumers (otherwise we end up in the illusion of consumer actor or exnihilian reductionism). Indeed, on the one hand, far from being satisfied with "responding" to a demand, industries are forced to arouse it among those I call "consumer workers", on the other hand, an important part of the demand. consumption escapes the individual consumer: public investments of the GTII * type which benefit only a minority, as well as the entire military-industrial branch which represents a pinnacle in terms of energy dissipation (in the latter case, it seems to me no need to insist on the lack of demand from "consumers" of bombs!).

* GTII: Large Useless & Imposed Works.
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by sen-no-sen » 24/12/18, 19:41

Ahmed wrote:(...) the orientations of the industrial mode of production do not simply result from the action of consumers (otherwise we find ourselves in the illusion of the consumer actor or exnihilian reductionism). Indeed, on the one hand, far from being satisfied with "responding" to a demand, industries are forced to arouse it among those I call "consumer workers" (...)



The economic system tends to maximize its capacity for future actions (1), therefore in the context of the so-called consumer society it is logical that companies seek to constantly develop new products to increase their profits (2) .
It then follows a process of artificial selection where consumers "choose" the (succumb to) products most likely to contribute, in view of the given model, to their "satisfaction" (3).

Globally, the Large Useless & Imposed Works as you rightly call them are the consequence of the inertia of thought models within the dominant class (4) and aims to maintain efficiency, not to say mismanagement so that the complexes ideas are perpetuated and saturate all spaces.
It is the same in the military-industrial sector where war administrations tend to justify their portfolio increases through real or supposed threats, or as in recent decades, created from scratch.

1) which is the characteristic of intelligence (in the naturalistic sense of the term).
2) Increase your profits = maximize your capacity for future actions.
3) Satisfaction based on a close convergence of physiological and psychological needs and ideologies implemented via the media.This is why manufacturers are resorting to significant expenditure in marketing strategy. For example, the world leader in defense (Lokheed Martin) is also a specialist in marketing safety consulting for other sports equipment supplier Nike.
4) Latest: "Le grand Paris".
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by Exnihiloest » 25/12/18, 21:42

nico239 wrote:The political class as a whole (but not in its majority) became discredited after the referendum of 2005.
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And also with the total denial of a popular consultation, that for Notre-Dame-Des-Landes.
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 25/12/18, 22:53

Exnihiloest wrote:
nico239 wrote:The political class as a whole (but not in its majority) became discredited after the referendum of 2005.
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And also with the total denial of a popular consultation, that for Notre-Dame-Des-Landes.


Exactly...

There is already work for the referendum so for the RIC I tell you not.
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by Ahmed » 26/12/18, 17:39

And also with the total denial of a popular consultation, that for Notre-Dame-Des-Landes.

This referendum was decided from above, on a project supported by the government and already decided, but intended to help it out by creating a counter-fire vis-à-vis determined opponents; for this reason, its modalities: formulation of the question and definition of the population consulted have been carefully configured to elicit a positive response. As then the real reasons for this project became obsolete, this "democratic" masquerade no longer made sense and the abandonment of the project could then be used as a concession to the ecology whereas it did not testify to other than the decrease in the influence of Jean-Marc Ayrault to impose this technically useless extension ...
We must carefully be wary of what covers the words "popular" or "democratic" which is almost systematically instrumentalized in its opposite: look at North Korea or China as well as all past dictatorships ...
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