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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by Christophe » 27/05/16, 20:07

At least 3 boxes yes! You spoiled my weekend :( Snif! :P
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by sen-no-sen » 27/05/16, 21:32

Christophe wrote:
Is that so? I note that this is what is happening: I think (to check) that there are more grocery stores today than in the 90s and 2000s! There are small businesses that innovate such as bulk sales! (although LIDL does the same here for pistachio and cashew ...)


So it's true and false at the same time.
In fact, the number of local shops is generally increasing in urban areas and decreasing in rural areas.
However, by local trade we mean mainly convenience stores and hard discount.
For around fifteen years, large groups such as Carrefour (Carrefour contact, City et al.) launched a large offensive on this type of storefront traditionally run by small managers (less and less small traditional grocers in favor of enc..carrefour ... good brief ... : Mrgreen: )

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Chart 3: Food retail trade: supermarkets and hypermarkets are gathering more and more employees(source INSEE).

We can clearly see that large structures dominate .... logic its curves obey the laws of statistical mechanics once again ... (selection process K and r).

"Six companies die every hour in France" (UPA)


This is the estimate given by Jean-Pierre Crouzet, head of the Professional Union of artisans. An estimate ... underestimated

That is true. According to the latest figures from the Bank of France, there were almost 63.000 business failures between last September and September 2013, which therefore makes about 7 bankruptcy filings every hour. More than 85% of failures concern micro-enterprises, that is to say with less than 10 employees. In addition, a large proportion of bankruptcy filings concern companies less than three years old.

Is there a recipe to last? This is somewhat what INSEE wanted to know. Its researchers studied what had become of the companies created five years earlier in 2011. And they realized that there are 4 factors that increase the chances of survival despite the crisis.

http://www.franceinfo.fr/emission/le-vrai-du-faux/2014-2015/six-entreprises-meurent-toutes-les-heures-en-france-union-des-artisans-08-12-2014-07-25

Another fairly detailed report:

The hypermarkets, forty years after their appearance in 1963, continue to expand and their number has increased by 9% in ten years. A challenge and a threat for small businesses, which also have to deal with convenience stores coming to settle in the city center. In 2003, specialized food and commercial crafts represented approximately 15,2% of the market share of the whole retail trade and commercial crafts. Over the last decade (1993-2003), the local trade in meat and fish has continued to see a decrease in the number of its establishments: -21% for meat, -43% for cold meats and -21% for fish. This is explained by a shift in consumption of meat and fish towards substitute products (meat and fish in prepared meals purchased in supermarkets). The bakery and the pastry-making know high differences; pastry-making fell 33% (strong competition from supermarkets) while bakery recorded a lesser decrease of 6,4% (more limited purchases in supermarkets). The fruit and vegetable and dairy products sectors lost 23% and 39% of their establishments, respectively.


If consumption of fruits (+ 11%) and vegetables (+ 6%) is increasing, the drop in the number of stores is explained by competition from supermarkets and canned goods (4th and canned); the same is true for dairy products, the consumption of which is also increasing (milk and creams + 7%; cheeses + 11%; yogurts and dairy desserts + 28%). On the other hand, in the regions of dairy production, purchases are maintained for local trade. As for the miscellaneous specialized food retail trade, it has increased significantly since 1998 after an equivalent drop between 1993 and 1998. For the flower trade, purchases remaining fairly constant, the relative variation in the number of stores is mainly explained by the development the size of these. The retail food trade in stalls and markets has also recorded a significant drop of 8% over the past decade. However, its situation is less difficult due to lower charges and fixed costs compared to store trade. Conversely, the food trade by vending machines is experiencing a real upturn (+ 176% of distributors). (Sic !!!! ndlr)


http://www.rungisinternational.com/fr/bleu/enquetesrungisactu/CommerceProximite626.asp

To put in the topic tomorrow all unemployed?

In times of economic stability natural selection favors large organisms (therefore monopoly) it is selection K, in more unstable periods (and will not come quickly) it is the small organisms that develop the most (small businesses) is selection r.
Both trends work together, however, and numbers of typical small businesses startups can emerge and become monopolistic (ex with Google, or Facebook)
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by moinsdewatt » 28/05/16, 12:36

It is not the company ExxonMobil which will help:

ExxonMobil shareholders reject pro-climate proposals

AFP 25 May 2016

The American oil company ExxonMobil on Wednesday contained a sling from certain shareholders who wanted to force it to take into account the financial consequences of policies to fight climate change.


Only 38,2% of the shareholders of the Texan group approved, at the annual general meeting in Dallas (south), a resolution asking it to assess the financial impact of environmental public policies on its activity following the agreement of Paris of December 2015 on the climate. It is nevertheless a step forward compared to previous years when similar resolutions had been rejected by a larger majority.

The other motion to force the group to adopt measures helping to limit global warming to 2 ° C compared to the pre-industrial period won only 18,5% of the votes cast, according to preliminary results broadcast live on the group's website. Finally, a proposal for the appointment of a climate expert on the board received only 21% of the vote.

It's a victory for CEO Rex Tillerson, who asked shareholders to oppose these resolutions tabled by American and British public pension funds and supported by major shareholders such as the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund, the largest in the world, European banks BNP Paribas, Natixis and HSBC or even insurers Axa and Aegon.

http://www.connaissancedesenergies.org/ ... mat-160525
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by Mathilde » 12/07/16, 16:32

Hello !
Now that ten years have passed, where are we? Have the effects of global warming become less and less harmful or is it the opposite? In no way do I want to argue about it, but lo and behold, we cannot escape the truth - that is, things have not improved.
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by izentrop » 12/07/16, 16:46

Mathilde wrote:Are the effects of global warming have become less harmful or is it the opposite?
It's hard to see the effects on a daily basis, it is better to specialist advice http://www.pseudo-sciences.org/spip.php?article1450
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by Christophe » 13/07/16, 11:43

Good arguments in this article izentrop :)

We could discuss on many points, I retained one:

Michel Petit wrote:On the other hand, the injection of water vapor into the atmosphere has no lasting effect on the concentration of water vapor in the atmosphere, insofar as its duration of residence in the atmosphere is only one to two weeks. This injection therefore does not modify the climate.


It is true the water vapor does not have a great remanence in the atmosphere, but the combustion of fossil fuels by humanity constantly releases water vapor, there is no pause , it's every day 24/24 ... and 1 liter of burnt oil "creates" about 1 kg of water.

Compared to natural evaporation, these discharges are negligible on a daily basis, if we rely on these 2 estimates and that we estimate that 1 TOE releases 1 Ton of water:

http://www.planetoscope.com/atmosphere/ ... phere.html

This represents an evaporation of more than almost 16 billion liters of water evaporated every second


http://www.planetoscope.com/Source-d-en ... -tep-.html

World energy consumption represents 390 tonnes of oil equivalent every second


The ratio is therefore 390 / 000 or 16 per thousand!

It prevents:
a) it is not at all certain that this vapor does not have an impact at least on the level of the local climate (urban island for example ...) ... it is even almost certain that it is one !
b) ultimately after the fossil era, the amount of water added to the natural water cycle may not be so negligible as that ... what do the experts think?
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by Christophe » 13/07/16, 11:50

Another point all the same:

Michel Petit wrote: Finally, the observed evolution of the isotopic carbon composition of atmospheric CO2 molecules very precisely reflects the natural and fossil origins of atmospheric carbon sources ...


It's a shame that he doesn't give this precise report ...

He says well:

Michel Petit wrote:The annual increase of the observed concentration CO2 is only half the annual emission into the atmosphere of CO2 produced by fossil fuels.


Okay (although this is the first time I hear this) but where does the rest of the increase CO2 then?

Biological activity (snowball effect?), Geological ...?

If it is geological, why has the CO2 concentration only increased since the industrial era?

In addition there is not only CO2: NOx, CH4 ... are (perhaps even more than CO2) strongly linked to human activity ...

I prefer to speak in CO2 equivalent only on CO2 ...
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by Christophe » 13/07/16, 15:20

Yes there is a feedback loop on CO2 (but also on other GHGs ...) it is the snowball effect or runaway heat that we have been talking about for a few years ...

Some studies also say that CO2 precedes rising temperatures ... but is the accuracy of these measurements on a very large time scale only sufficient?

The only climatic certainty that we can have now is that we are living the hottest years since humanity records them, that is to say about 150 years! In 20 years all alpine glaciers have retreated significantly, not sure that the polar core can show this!

After I understand that fossil fuel players may be very interested in coring that would clear the fossil CO2 ... but is it honest?

Everyday weather level, it seems to me, it's also a bit of a mess at the moment isn't it? Still more significant than coring ...

In short, I did not find a precise answer to my 2 remarks ... Maybe you can show us the passage or the curve in question?

Because to say that there is currently as much CO2 of natural origin which is rejected as of human origin, it is very beautiful but I would like data a little more scientific than prose ... studies , curves, explanations ...

Real life what :)
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Re: 10 years to save the climate?




by chatelot16 » 13/07/16, 15:41

considering the number of km2 of ocean the water evaporates or condenses as it wants depending on the temperature ... the vapor due to combustion is insufficient to modify the balance
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