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by the middle » 25/01/09, 16:03

3) What we can blame them for is lying more and more openly to the people and putting them to sleep on false problems to maintain social peace and make the benefit of some ...

I bring them much closer:Get rich on the backs of taxpayers, abuse rights, abuse everything. (To pay the restaurant, or the super luxurious hotel, on the card of a hospital .. small example)
There are scandals on scandals, and these THIEVES very rarely go to prison.
How many Belgian ministers have not paid their taxes for years ... it goes ... we resign, and we come back after ...
The government system in Belgium is identical to a MAFIA!
Do you know that the Belgian PS has a private BORDEL in BRUXELLES !!! You enter by the front door and when your little business is done, you go out from behind, so as not to meet a "colleague" ....... I'm sure of what I'm saying pcq I personally know the poor people who worked in this luxury mess !!!! (they were fired because their language was too long)
In Belgium we are OBLIGED to vote under penalty of a fine ... for whom for the same ...
So Christophe doesn't tell me that we have a choice; Do not tell me that .
And hop, sent
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by Christophe » 25/01/09, 16:13

Remundo wrote:hold, to illustrate what Christophe says, have you seen the infrared of France 2, this week "live at 1500 € / month" :?:


Not seen just seen the trailer.

1500 € doesn't mean anything: it's for how many people. If it's only one, it shocks me a little: 1500 € / month for ONE PERSON, sorry but it's A GOOD SALARY !! That's "10" frs!

It was also my "mental" limit that I had set myself when I was still looking for a job as a young graduate of bac +5 !!

I know a lot of friends who today do not win that ...

Again am offbeat or the street or what?

I do not believe that a teacher starting in college earns 1500 € / month if?

2) LeJustemilieu your story of whores sorry me but it is nothing but anecdotal ... it has nothing to do with the fact of governing. Whether it's the PS or MR or UMP ... it doesn't change anything: the politicians lack morality and your story shows it well.

Pkoi the press didn't investigate it? This is typically the thing that would boost the audience and that should interest "Topical Question" for example ...
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by the middle » 25/01/09, 16:17

Pkoi the press didn't investigate it? This is typically the thing that would boost the audience and that should interest "Topical Question" for example ...

No way to wet these poor people ... the business is too serious.
The Mafia is capable of everything
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by Christophe » 25/01/09, 16:28

Mafia? I do not believe...

Journalists instead of pulling the supermarket and the local market gardener (that's ok we got the guys !!!) would denounce this kind of rubbish ...

He could also denounce the exorbitant prices of real estate making the fortune of some ...

What costs you more per month? Your rent or mortgage or food? And pkoi the calculation of inflation does not take into account the real estate? Having a roof is not a first necessity, perhaps?

When I told you that the media put us to sleep ...
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by the middle » 25/01/09, 17:05

Mafia? I do not believe...
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I'm furious, not on you, but on the government mafia.
I have other examples known by me, not by the newspapers ... it's to cry ...
Ok, I give them, Diroupette, certified brothel client ...
Another example: The bear of the Socialist PS of Charleroi:
He is invited to visit and eat in a center that offers "free" meals to the poor ... this junk asked for WINE !!!
We had to send someone to look for wine in a store : Shock: (my second wife was there!)
Her name? he revolves around all the Charleroi scandals, he may NEVER be worried ... Van kowenberg berg berg
You know what I think ... you fool me so that I spit what I know; you won.
Belgium is rotten; at least Wallonia.
And the other idiot who's always been drunk, for ages ... it's known ... he represents Belgium ????
Ha yes, I'm vulgar, but my fault is so small compared to our ministers
One last example, I personally worked for a politician ...in black and it was a very big job ....
You are happy Christophe :D
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by Christophe » 25/01/09, 17:22

I don't have to be happy ... and I'm always against Mafia's name ...

Does the PS execute people? Because the Mafia is that ...

After big rotten, there are everywhere and probably more in politics than elsewhere it is clear ... but do not generalize: I doubt that all the elected officials of the PS went at least once in the brothel that you quote .

Pkoi are you targeting the PS? You think it's better right?

For your work IN BLACK, you only had to blackmail it ... or refuse it this work !!! You accepted it, so you are partly responsible ...

I knew kk1 who worked as a trainee at the UN in Geneva, same: paid in cash at the end of the month ... at the UN, guarantor of PEACE in the world ... It is an unmistakable clue!

ps: Diroupette is Di Rupo? If yes, I thought he was gay, what would he do in an embroidery? Watching others? : Cheesy:
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by the middle » 25/01/09, 17:31

ps: Diroupette is Di Rupo? If yes, I thought he was gay, what would he do in an embroidery? Watching others?

Brothel of luxury, you have what you want ...
Homo or .... something else ...too serious to say ...I stopped ...
Now it's your turn to open your eyes
I no longer respond to this topic
They have eyes and don't see
Originally, it was in Latin
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by Christophe » 25/01/09, 17:34

A little easy to accuse others of rotten but not to meet its responsibilities ... don't you think?

I repeat my remark that you seemed to ignore ...

For your work IN BLACK, you only had to blackmail it ... or refuse it this work !!! You accepted it, so you are partly responsible ...
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by the middle » 25/01/09, 17:51

Christophe wrote:A little easy to accuse others of rotten but not to meet its responsibilities ... don't you think?

I repeat my remark that you seemed to ignore ...

For your work IN BLACK, you only had to blackmail it ... or refuse it this work !!! You accepted it, so you are partly responsible ...

I was 22 years old, in fact, the work was FREE, and I worked for a boss, (I have 50)
It was a bribe as they say :?
When you're a kid, you do what the boss says ... in general .. (at that time we obeyed the boss)
But I recognize my responsibility in this case. (Responsibility of a kid who did not know life)
A little easy not to meet its responsibilities ???

Stop saying such things:
the human being is quickly tempted by the devil ..
I remember that when I was a kid, there were local police officers who watched the street, who came to find my parents if they saw me with two bikes ... (sorry, a police officer)
Now if they come .... if ... then they will have dogs with them for fear of being attacked by the neighborhood
Ho and then shit, you annoy me, I cut my pc
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by Remundo » 25/01/09, 17:57

lejustemilieu wrote:were fired because too long a tongue

Surprising, because in a house of joy, it is highly sought after : Cheesy:
Otherwise, to respond to Toff
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Remundo wrote:hold, to illustrate what Christophe says, have you seen the infrared of France 2, this week "live at 1500 € / month" :?:


Not seen just seen the trailer.

1500 € doesn't mean anything: it's for how many people. If it's only one, it shocks me a little: 1500 € / month for ONE PERSON, sorry but it's A GOOD SALARY !! That's "10" frs!

It was also my "mental" limit that I had set myself when I was still looking for a job as a young graduate of bac +5 !!

I know a lot of friends who today do not win that ...

Again am offbeat or the street or what?

I do not believe that a teacher starting in college earns € 1500 / month if ?.

Yes, a beginner teacher earns this and it is a pittance, because none of his trips or accommodation costs are reimbursed.

So much that most work to lose money the first few months, and just make ends meet a few years later ...

In the following, I speak for the situation of FRANCE

Your benchmark of 10 Francs dates from 000 years ago, see 10. Inflation means that in reality, it is now 15 Francs = 15 € that you have to earn to start finding your account a bit to work.

If you take a single person who earns 1500 Euros / month and works in Créteil (I know some : Cheesy:), he must provision 110 Euros of income tax each month.

He must find accommodation, 700 euros / month including charges.

He must pay for his electricity and telephone: € 50 / month

He must pay housing taxes, etc ... 50 € / month

He has to travel to work 250 € / month

He must pay his health insurance 100 € / month

He must eat, dress, renew his equipment 400 € / month

Here we are, he has nothing left to spare or have fun.

Now take the same, big 25 year old wanker in a provincial town:
Accommodation offered,
Electricity and telephone: reduction, even gift (special EDF tax paid by others ...)
Local taxation: exempt
Travel: 0 €, unless Monsieur wants to walk
Mutual: beneficiary of CMU, gift!
Food: Access to the neighborhood grocery store / heart restaurant, small vegetable garden for those who find the courage to do so.

Highlight of the show: RMI 450 € / month: the guy who is doing well manages to spare him every month, or can slam him at the bistro between a pastis and a "bingo / tacotac".

Very many active people do not reach this capacity for monthly savings even if it is customary to say that "they earn a good living".

In fact, we forget to say that "they spend their life even more" because they are exposed to overwhelming taxes and to assume all their basic costs and needs alone.

This is why currently in France, the most exploited and despised layer of the population is the lower middle class, ie the SMICard.

It is simply scandalous, but it is the French model. : Idea:

Well these are little things that it is not good to expose, but too bad ...
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