Does the grain have a small taste of formaldehyde?

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Does the grain have a small taste of formaldehyde?




by Rabbit » 10/12/10, 20:47

A pdf on which I came across.
that leaves you wondering. But see for yourself.

Risk assessment of the use of formaldehyde in animal feed (afssa)

It tastes like a little asbestos. No?
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by chatelot16 » 10/12/10, 21:36

why are you talking about grain

formaldehyde and silica preservative formic acid! the silage is not grain, but the grass or the crushed corn that we pile up under black tarpaulins ... dirt that we should never have invented!
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by Rabbit » 10/12/10, 22:04

About 60% of peanut cake used in France for animal feed is
treated with ammonia and formaldehyde, approximately 80 tonnes.



for example tanning with 1,3% formalin at 30% for the
rapeseed meal or with 1% of a 30% formalin solution for soybean meal


Apparently it's not just silage. But that doesn't change
The surprising thing is that we knowingly introduce formalin into the food chain including ours.
However you are right I made a fixation on the peanut.

But rest assured there is no danger, well not too much ...

This gas is therefore toxic on contact and by inhalation. If formaldehyde is mutagenic and
carcinogenic in rats and mice by inhalation, its carcinogenicity in humans is low
documented and the IARC classifies it as 2A as a probable human carcinogen (by
inhalation).


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by dedeleco » 10/12/10, 23:06

The milk, meat, etc. that we eat have their formaldehyde levels increased a little !!
Anyway, there is naturally formaldehyde and therefore a little more, does not pose a problem according to this pdf !!
Everything about chemical reactions and toxicity in the short term, but nothing in the long term about serious, unforeseeable indirect effects, which if they exist, have therefore completely escaped, since they were neither sought nor envisaged, because they are too difficult to detect and prove.
If microbes, bacteria, salmonella do not like 1/1000 formaldehyde, it must be as bad for animals and us, even if we resist better in the short term.
In any case, it is necessary to keep fodder, and animal feed and therefore formalin around the thousandth !!
All kinds of reactions with the molecules of life are possible and therefore unclear long term effects, by eating these modified animal compounds for decades !!

read for an overview:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9thanal
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acide_m%C3 ... o%C3%AFque
The direct effects are indisputable for human guinea pigs:
After first being considered as "probable carcinogen", formaldehyde has been classified as "certain carcinogen" by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), which depends on the World Health Organization (WHO). .
It is the cause of nasopharyngeal cancer ............
* exposed workers were generally exposed to a large number of potentially carcinogenic pollutants (wood dust in the wood industry - responsible for nasal cavity cancer -, benzene - responsible for leukemia -, and other aldehydes such as acetaldehyde); the proper role of formaldehyde in these cancers is therefore difficult to demonstrate [20], [21].
* Its involvement in the occurrence of leukemia is strongly suspected [20].

Formaldehyde is used in many synthetic materials; however, these release significant quantities of formaldehyde over time. It is one of the most common pollutants in indoor air.


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by Christophe » 11/12/10, 12:39

chatelot16 wrote:... dirt that we should never have invented!


What a filth? It is a good method for storing food for fairly long periods of time ... at a reduced cost!

Otherwise Rabbit, nice find this report, the conclusion p22 is still reassuring:

Despite the limited ingestion toxicity data available, ingestion of formaldehyde, formaldehyde or hexamethylenetetramine appears to be not very toxic to farm animals. The safety of use of this chemical agent is good if its use respects the recommendations for use of the marketed products described in this report.

(...)

The use of formaldehyde and hexamethylenetetramine in animal feed, under the current practical conditions and regulatory framework, has a minimal impact on the exposure of consumers to formaldehyde and does not contribute to increasing for humans the potential associated risks oral exposure to endogenous formaldehyde from plant and animal products.
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by Obamot » 11/12/10, 13:18

Yes, and we should not confuse formaldehyde in the glues that emit in an apartment that is an enclosed space, with this form in the open since it is very volatile. As long as it is routed and then distributed to the animals, nothing should remain amha ...
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by dedeleco » 11/12/10, 13:57

Yes, in the short term, a little more formaldehyde in food, but in the long term, we cannot guess an indirect effect possible, unimaginable, unpredictable, unlikely, unknown, like the example of mad cow !!
So be careful !!
Between carcinogenic molds (peanuts) and this product there is an optimum !!
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by Obamot » 11/12/10, 14:23

Indeed Dedelco, I have a little too excited my reflection of optimism ... Image : Cheesy: No, we cannot exclude it by far: caution.
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by chatelot16 » 11/12/10, 14:33

formaldehyde is volatile! so it remains in the stored food only because it is enclosed in a sealed thing ... it will then evaporate ... it will be completely destroyed in the animal which eats it ... I do not see how he will reach the man

if you have to beware of formaldehyde beware rather, furniture made of agglomerated wood, so-called solvent-free paint, glues, carpets, cleaning products
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