Thorium car: 480 000 km of autonomy!

Cars, buses, bicycles, electric airplanes: all electric transportation that exist. Conversion, engines and electric drives for transport ...
User avatar
Capt_Maloche
Moderator
Moderator
posts: 4559
Registration: 29/07/06, 11:14
Location: Ile-de-France
x 42

Thorium car: 480 000 km of autonomy!




by Capt_Maloche » 07/09/11, 09:53

AH, if it's not info! :D

Here is the article:

Image


Principle and exploitation to be deepened
Sector and reprocessing to see of course

source: http://www.maxisciences.com/voiture/bie ... 16784.html
0 x
"Consumption is similar to a search consolation, a way to fill a growing existential void. With, the key, a lot of frustration and a little guilt, increasing the environmental awareness." (Gérard Mermet)
OUCH, OUILLE, OUCH, AAHH! ^ _ ^
User avatar
I Citro
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 5129
Registration: 08/03/06, 13:26
Location: Bordeaux
x 11

Re: Thorium car: 480 km of range!




by I Citro » 07/09/11, 10:43

Capt_Maloche wrote:AH, if it's not info! :D
Indeed. Image
0 x
Christophe
Moderator
Moderator
posts: 79374
Registration: 10/02/03, 14:06
Location: Greenhouse planet
x 11064




by Christophe » 07/09/11, 10:43

Hihihi had to happen! Well, we've already made the nuclear plane: https://www.econologie.com/forums/un-avion-e ... t2548.html

I don't know much about it but the mass energy ratio of thorium to fossil energy seems very high compared to uranium ...

We are there on a report of 21 (???) while the uranium is in the 000 to 000 according to the sources of the figures see https://www.econologie.com/forums/consommati ... 10302.html
0 x
User avatar
Capt_Maloche
Moderator
Moderator
posts: 4559
Registration: 29/07/06, 11:14
Location: Ile-de-France
x 42




by Capt_Maloche » 07/09/11, 21:42

YEP! Must dig,

Thorium mining method, conversion to mechanical work

Here is their site apparently: http://www.txchnologist.com/2011/the-th ... clear-cars


on Wiki: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium

Thorium is a chemical element, a metal from the actinide family, of symbol Th and atomic number 90.

It was discovered in 1829 by Jöns Jacob Berzelius and named after Thor, the Scandinavian god of thunder.

Its main applications are in magnesium alloys used for aircraft engines. It has huge potential as a nuclear fuel, but this path is still being explored (with various types of reactors: nuclear reactor driven by accelerator, molten salt reactor, high temperature HTR reactor, etc.).


...
The exploitation of thorium by nuclear reactors with molten salts nevertheless seems today to be the most promising route; it is being studied in several countries such as France, the United States, China13, India and Japan.

With the exception of France, all these countries have recently decided to initiate significant industrial efforts in this direction. In France, promising theoretical scenarios have been studied intensively by the CNRS since the beginning of the 2000s. In particular, the Laboratory of Subatomic Physics and Cosmology of Grenoble (LPSC) 14 has developed a concept of an “unmoderated molten salt reactor”. Says MSFR (for Molten Salt Fast Reactor, a type of fast neutron reactor), which seems likely to offer very favorable operating characteristics meeting all the criteria of fourth generation reactors (cf. Forum International Generation IV):

optimal use of thorium as an abundant fertile material, making it possible to breed quickly - given the known reserves, the energy resources available would be at least 500 times greater than those of current second generation reactors (PWR, Canadian CANDU to natural uranium, Russian RBMK,…).

At the current rate of nuclear energy production, potential reserves amount to tens of thousands of years.

the fuel cycle creates little plutonium and minor actinides and therefore generates much more manageable radioactive waste; some technology promotion groups15 even qualify this route as "green nuclear energy", insofar as it could contribute significantly to the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions without presenting the drawbacks of current nuclear reactors.

a high intrinsic operational reliability, due to very negative thermal vacuum coefficients and feedback preventing the reaction from racing itself, despite the absence of a moderator;

the primary circuit of the molten salt reactor operates at ambient atmospheric pressure and uses only chemically stable substances; the risk of radioactive contamination or fire in the event of a leak is therefore very low;

the use of liquid nuclear fuels makes it possible to envisage an in situ chemical treatment of fissile materials; this would avoid having to unload the heart and carry out external reprocessing, with as a corollary the need to transport radioactive materials;


Yeah, well, it's a bit like EDF announces the construction of a 250kg nuclear power plant
0 x
"Consumption is similar to a search consolation, a way to fill a growing existential void. With, the key, a lot of frustration and a little guilt, increasing the environmental awareness." (Gérard Mermet)
OUCH, OUILLE, OUCH, AAHH! ^ _ ^
User avatar
Flytox
Moderator
Moderator
posts: 14141
Registration: 13/02/07, 22:38
Location: Bayonne
x 839




by Flytox » 07/09/11, 22:50

The process is so good, full of quality, hope, green .... that we would put it in the soup of infants .......

Finally, if it has not yet been put into service, there must be at least one small big drawback ..... which we have been careful not to tell us about. And then to drain funding, you have to dream. Make everyone believe that there is a future for mass destruction plants other than the planned and entire devastation of countries and their people.

Anyway, we can be at ease, if this technology emerges (which said 50 years ???), it is the nuclear industry which will take care of it, it is a pledge of seriousness, transparency, lucidity and responsibility, as we always shown BDF ARIVHA and TEPCO : Mrgreen:
0 x
Reason is the madness of the strongest. The reason for the less strong it is madness.
[Eugène Ionesco]
http://www.editions-harmattan.fr/index. ... te&no=4132
User avatar
elephant
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 6646
Registration: 28/07/06, 21:25
Location: Charleroi, center of the world ....
x 7




by elephant » 08/09/11, 08:35

I doubt that the authorities will one day allow radioactive sources to be placed in the hands of individuals: uncontrollable!

When we see all the traffic linked to the automobile, the cars that we find in the canal, etc., we understand.

Already there is enriched uranium that is found God knows where since the 90s ...
0 x
elephant Supreme Honorary éconologue PCQ ..... I'm too cautious, not rich enough and too lazy to really save the CO2! http://www.caroloo.be
moinsdewatt
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 5111
Registration: 28/09/09, 17:35
Location: Isére
x 554




by moinsdewatt » 10/09/11, 12:41

The article is filthy. A catch cat.

It is only a disguised advertisement for the start-up in need of funding.
0 x
User avatar
Obamot
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 28725
Registration: 22/08/09, 22:38
Location: regio genevesis
x 5538




by Obamot » 10/09/11, 17:15

Bands of bad languages, you have not read the notice until the end ( : Mrgreen: )

And it's co-funded by Laboratoires $ ervier: no problem!

Flytox wrote:The process is so good, full of quality, hope, green .... that we would put it in the soup of infants ....... : Mrgreen:


In any case, with such hearses on the roads, there will never again be a need:
- weedkiller for pavements ( : Mrgreen: )
- antioxidant in the body ... ( : Mrgreen: )
- brain scanners ... ( : Mrgreen: )
- radiotherapy for cancer patients ... ( : Mrgreen: )
- fridge in the morgues ... ( : Mrgreen: )

... substantial savings for "health" services ... ( : Mrgreen: )
Another advantage: they will recharge on their own while driving around a power plant! ( : Mrgreen: )

Image

Your doctor will prescribe you special treatment by prescription "swan song":
"A Lourdes-Paris light" without return: departure on an empty stomach at sunset. ( : Mrgreen: )

A kind of new "barium transi"externally: there will even no longer be a need to light the highways! ( : Mrgreen: : Cheesy: : Mrgreen: )
0 x
User avatar
elephant
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 6646
Registration: 28/07/06, 21:25
Location: Charleroi, center of the world ....
x 7




by elephant » 10/09/11, 19:20

And that's how eco-terrorists hold back progress! : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
0 x
elephant Supreme Honorary éconologue PCQ ..... I'm too cautious, not rich enough and too lazy to really save the CO2! http://www.caroloo.be
User avatar
Remundo
Moderator
Moderator
posts: 16183
Registration: 15/10/07, 16:05
Location: Clermont Ferrand
x 5263




by Remundo » 10/09/11, 19:31

the nuclear battery car is a "good old" project.

It is sure that in terms of autonomy, it is unbeatable: it is not for nothing that there are submarines, aircraft carriers or other nuclear icebreakers ... But for the rest ... :?

Some had proposed cogeneration: the car remaining in the garage produced heat and electricity continuously for the house.

When it went out to roll, only the electricity was used and the heat lost.

For those who want to sleep on top of a nuclear battery. : Idea:
0 x
Image

 


  • Similar topics
    Replies
    views
    Last message

Back to "Electric transport: cars, bicycles, public transport, planes ..."

Who is online ?

Users browsing this forum : No registered users and 140 guests