Fires in Australia were preventable

[plasmanu]

https://www.cairn.info/revue-annales-20 ... e-105.htm#
"The primary objective of this article, which is part of ongoing research, is to determine whether the ancient Mediterranean was the object of large-scale deforestation between 800 BC (the birth of the City Greek) and the 1th century (the Arab invasions) - which remains “the most controversial issue in the environmental history of the Mediterranean.” [XNUMX] The second objective is to see if it is possible to write a history environmental meaning for a period which, although short on the geological and palaeontological time scale, is long enough to have undergone major anthropogenic changes.

Three reasons justify looking into this question: ... "

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

https://www.cairn.info/revue-annales-2011-1-page-105.htm#
"The primary objective of this article, which is part of ongoing research, is to determine whether the ancient Mediterranean was the object of large-scale deforestation between 800 BC (the birth of the City Greek) and the 1th century (the Arab invasions) - which remains “the most controversial issue in the environmental history of the Mediterranean.” [XNUMX] The second objective is to see if it is possible to write a history environmental meaning for a period which, although short on the geological and palaeontological time scale, is long enough to have undergone major anthropogenic changes.

Three reasons justify looking into this question: ... "

"But in the primitive state of the country, its mountains were high hills covered with soil, and the plains of Phelleus, as we call them, were covered with rich earth, and there was an abundance of wood in the mountains." ..]. In addition, the earth reaped the benefits of the annual rain, it did not lose it as today by letting it trickle over the bare ground and reach the sea. There was water everywhere in abundance, the earth received it within it and kept it in the clay soil, releasing into hollows the rivers which it had absorbed from the heights, supplying abundant fountains and rivers everywhere ... ”
since from 360 BC. AD, Plato (in Critias)

[GuyGadebois]

Between firewood, wood for cooking, war and for the navy, forests have been undermined everywhere.
But let's go back to Australia if possible, do we want to?

[plasmanu]

The Gauls and the charcoal revolution to kill legionnaires ...
So disregard before 2019.
You talked about the Aborigines who for 50000 years ... Dream time, oral traditions ... No writing ... the continent for English convicts ... Thank you James Cook

[izentrop]

All the same, we do not see what burned (by definition) and natural and forest carbon has been released, which cancels the previous storage effect of this disappeared vegetation ...

On these 3 photos there remain most of the branches ... so hold on!

So let's say that if 20% of the mass of stored carbon has been burned in CO2 ... the overall balance remains positive!

I have never, never seen a forest completely destroyed by fire! The trunks are still standing ... Have you ever tried to light wood that has just been cut? You have an answer: even in a very hot stove, it ends up suffocating it! Let's find a study of forest firefighters on it, it must exist!

I am not saying that a forest fire does not emit carbon, I say that it does not increase, on a large enough time scale, the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere!

Pretending the opposite is climate defamation and we're in the middle of it!

The life of the tree is right under the bark. Burnt bark, the tree does not survive and the fungi finish the job of sending CO2 back into the atmosphere.

Is it defamation? :
Bush fires in Australia emitted 250 million tonnes of CO2, almost half of the country's annual emissions https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -emissions

And there it comes from you:
World forest fires emitted more CO2 than the United States as a whole https://www.lalibre.be/planete/environn ... 0c460ffee6

Nobody has put it on yet:

[Christophe]

Mushrooms take decades to make a 50 cm diameter trunk disappear!

The bush and forest fires emitted the carbon that was captured a few years earlier ... it is dishonest to compare it to fossil emissions !!! It is carbon from the plant cycle (we could say carbon from the living) and not fossil (carbon from the dead)! But it was well tempted ... it's like adding cabbage to kg of tomatoes ...

The problem is that the neuneus (journalists included ... the proof) do not know how to make this distinction however obvious ... which suits the fossil lobbies well and clears the climate-destructive behaviors ... a bit like the article manipulator of a few months ago about the pollution of large ships ...

Are you a dick?

So yes, all of these articles are skeptical climate defamation! But what does the IPCC do ???

Yes most of the burned trees die ... I said that some rare cases could survive ... those probably less affected by the heat.

[plasmanu]

The Brut videos. it rocks
https://mobile.francetvinfo.fr/monde/as ... 01663.html
"VIDEO. In Australia, the situation turns into a climate nightmare
BRUT
By Brut. - France Télévisions
Updated on 27/01/2020 | 14:32 pm - published on 27/01/2020 | 14:32 p.m.

Fires, hail, torrential rain, giant dust clouds

Fires, hail, dust ... In just two months, Australia has suffered a succession of extreme weather events. 2019 was the warmest and driest year on record in Australia, creating perfect conditions for drought and fire. In January, two severe thunderstorms hit the southeast coast. This caused the arrival of hail and rain.

The situation then turns into a climatic nightmare: the land is often too dry to absorb the torrential rains. Strong winds born from thunderstorms cause gigantic clouds of dust. Abrupt changes in weather conditions are common in Australia but climate change is making them worse. "

[Christophe]

At this rate (of this debate), we will soon prove that in fact forest fires are almost beneficial as regards the CO2 content in the atmosphere!

It can happen to everyone to put out a big bullshit on a post, I'm not unscathed, but maybe we should not insist too much .....

I simply want to say (I think I was clear in my previous message) that one cannot be honest, scientifically add or compare even less assimilate carbon of plant origin and carbon of fossil origin ... those who are either dishonest or neuneus ... or both ...

And it is clear that there are many ... but it is so reassuring since it clears the CO2 of the entire human economic system based on the outrageous exploitation of fossil fuels !!

[Christophe]

The Brut videos. it rocks
https://mobile.francetvinfo.fr/monde/as ... 01663.html
"VIDEO. In Australia, the situation turns into a climate nightmare
BRUT
By Brut. - France Télévisions
Updated on 27/01/2020 | 14:32 pm - published on 27/01/2020 | 14:32 p.m.

Fires, hail, torrential rain, giant dust clouds

Fires, hail, dust ... In just two months, Australia has suffered a succession of extreme weather events. 2019 was the warmest and driest year on record in Australia, creating perfect conditions for drought and fire. In January, two severe thunderstorms hit the southeast coast. This caused the arrival of hail and rain.

The situation then turns into a climatic nightmare: the land is often too dry to absorb the torrential rains. Strong winds born from thunderstorms cause gigantic clouds of dust. Abrupt changes in weather conditions are common in Australia but climate change is making them worse. "

It becomes biblical! Quickly follow !!

[Christophe]

Between firewood, wood for cooking, war and for the navy, forests have been undermined everywhere.
But let's go back to Australia if possible, do we want to?

And, before the fossil era, strangely thousands of years of use of wood (including monstrous deforestation *) and millions of forest fires have very little changed the CO2 composition of the atmosphere ... damn it is strange: it will be necessary to wait until 2020 for forest fires to emit a surplus of atmospheric carbon ???

Thanks guy, there was still some proof that these items are a bunch of manipulation!

* eh ABC ..