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by Obamot » 26/09/14, 19:33

Ah well it was not specified "the rape", but perhaps implicitly yes ...

It was the President of the Confederation who said it!

It must have been cold! ( 8) ) Image

On the other hand I don't see how we could eradicate HIV only by reducing rape, if there was not another central factor? It's to dig, thank you for seeing that!

I wonder what tsunami it would have been in France if Flamby Ô'Landes dared to say the same! Image


And he could have, right? A socialist?

When I think of all the courageous statements he could have made while taking advantage of his mandate (and which he did not make). Particularly in the health and prevention sector: shame!

pffff : Shock: : roll: : Oops:
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by Janic » 26/09/14, 20:13

On the other hand I don't see how we could eradicate HIV only by reducing rape, what if there was not another central factor? It's to dig, thank you for seeing that!

You see how difficult it is to break a habit. The question is not to eradicate a non-existent HIV virus, but to avoid transmissions of infectious vectors for lack of hygiene, for example. Remember the case of puerperal fever which decimated women in childbirth due to lack of washing and disinfection of hands and clothes worn by midwives, surgeons, dissection of corpses and who wiped their hands covered with blood which dried on the smocks (indicating a great practice).
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by Obamot » 27/09/14, 10:33

Yes indeed...

Even if we don't have an absolute answer.
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by Janic » 27/09/14, 14:32

Even if we don't have an absolute answer.
Indeed, as long as this virus is not really found, we cannot affirm its existence.
But it doesn't matter! It is not a virus, a germ, any bacteria that matters, but the state of the immune system. This is also why in the same family some people will be affected by any infection and the brother or sister not.
David Servan-Schreiber points out in his book, the case of experimental mice resistant to doses of deadly carcinogens 1.000 times greater than that of other mice and still carrying themselves like a charm, despite the increasing doses successively injected. Her cubs had the same resistance too.
We therefore find the formula of Claude Bernard: "the microbe (the virus) is nothing, it's the terrain that is everything"
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by Obamot » 28/09/14, 15:25

However, I would not be willing to inject myself with this s ... of AIDS on an "experimental" basis.

Already for a good and simple reason: if it was indeed created in the laboratory for "pass the cash barrier"(one of the witness theories) it must still be a dangerous thing ...

If my immunity could resist him (?): I do not know, since Dr Jekyll have not disclosed anything!

And for good reason ... (perhaps courageous but not reckless ...) :D
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by Janic » 28/09/14, 17:36

fault!
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by Janic » 30/09/14, 12:05

next Tuesday on fr2 "cash investigation" on cigarettes
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by Obamot » 08/10/14, 01:20

hey beh !!! What a horror it was !!! Thank you for reporting this Janic !!!

And to say that these lobbyists trade in total freedom in a kind of universe of absolute corruption, and that all this little world of rotten parliamentarians (with the exception of diehards like José Bové and a few others) give themselves to heart ! We wonder what they are used for and why pay them: put these lobbyists' debasings directly in their place, they who provide them with certified copies of amendments directly drafted by the industry ... We are never better served than by yourself, except when you are a smoker!

I had already shot a red ball against Manuel Barroso in this forum (he who however had a beautiful image which had its origin in the Catholic priestly society well thought out) whereas this type would be in fact not far from absolute evil ...! (I don't even dare to talk about Mario Draghi ...)

By the way, would the people have voted for this whole masquerade? And what is the police doing?
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by Janic » 08/10/14, 07:19

obamot hello
Unfortunately no economic sector (or not for that matter) escapes pressure groups. If the cigarette has recently become the bête noire because of the millions of deaths it generates, we do not shoot as much with red balls on the alcoholists who nevertheless claim as many victims and even more if we consider the violence which results from it . There, it's all beautiful! Hypocrisy? No! Preservation of a sector which employs a very large quantity of individuals (future voters or elected officials in place) which is no longer the case for tobacco and if we find and impose on tobacco packages the mention: tobacco kills and pictures of organ breakdown; no image, no deadly mention on the other poison (it's less seller) Same thing for the bidoche elsewhere!

https://www.econologie.com/forums/alcool-et- ... 12334.html

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after philip moris smoking resoud the problem of pensions since smoking kills ... well that's what is said at the moment on 2 on TV ... and if it's on TV it's true? ??
it's cynicism, but it also corresponds to a tangible reality. Retirement savings are usually spent on very expensive care like cancer, but it's not the same budget!
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by Ahmed » 08/10/14, 08:50

Janic, overall very much agree with you, but when you write:
Retirement savings are usually spent on very expensive care like cancer, but it's not the same budget!

I would like to qualify: the costs of care are maximized at the end of the patient's life, so a patient who dies young saves the payment of his pensions; it should not be forgotten that if cigarettes (like other toxic drugs) cause death premature, this does not prevent certain mortality, ultimately, non-smokers! :D
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