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by ABC2019 » 12/07/20, 04:56

You have to show real bad faith to assert that hydroxy chloroquine is not effective in treating CoVid-19. The important thing is to know when, at what dose and for how long. But there is no randomized controlled trial with statistically significant results for hydroxy chloroquine.

sorry but I do not understand any of this pseudo-scientific gibberish: that it is said that it is difficult to have statistical proof of the effectiveness of a drug, that, I understand. But then how can we say that “we are in“ real bad faith in asserting that X is not effective? ”It makes no logical sense, we are in bad faith when we deny something for which there is evidence. exactly !!

To assert things and to assert at the same time that one does not need scientific proof to know it, it is the daily bread of all the false sciences, and it is even the definition of what is called: the faith. It is the basis of religion, not science.

If there is a significant proportion of doctors who support this opinion, it should not be surprising then that it is the b .....
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by Obamot » 12/07/20, 08:58

ABC2019 wrote:
It takes real bad faith to say that ...

Can you get us a solid study on Redemsivir?
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by izentrop » 12/07/20, 09:48

Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:there is no one left to support redemsivir.
Normal it does not exist https://sante.journaldesfemmes.fr/fiche ... er-raoult/
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by Christophe » 12/07/20, 10:38

This formula alone seems dishonest to me: " Remdesivir was able to show an effectiveness, but which remains extremely relative »

Relative to what? Ah yes that sounds classier than saying weak ... and above all most people retain "efficiency" ... but we are more than ready, I think, relative to all the other lies and shenanigans we have heard since the start of this epidemic (this is a correct use of the relative term) ...

Studies that conclude the ineffectiveness of remdesivir were published a few weeks ago, right? Why continue on this path? : Mrgreen:
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by Obamot » 12/07/20, 10:57

This especially since it is administered:
- “in adults and adolescents from 12 years of age with pneumonia and requiring supplemental oxygen ”
- “In the United States, only to patients hospitalized with a severe form of the disease."

.... which is far too late to start treatment!

But I'm glad that ABC - after months blasting the HCQ-AZ treatment - is posting a serious study on Remdesivir. He must have that as a "specialist" : Lol:
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 12/07/20, 11:03

Obamot wrote:This especially since it is administered:
- “in adults and adolescents from 12 years of age with pneumonia and requiring supplemental oxygen ”
- “In the United States, only to patients hospitalized with a severe form of the disease."

.... which is far too late to start treatment!

But I'm glad that ABC - after months blasting the HCQ-AZ treatment - is posting a serious study on Remdesivir. He must have that as a "specialist" : Lol:


Serious people should look at remdesivir the same as they did and still look at hydroxychloroquine and azthromicin ...

We see that it is not.

So these people are not serious.

But just present to spoil the debate.

They therefore have absolutely no interest and their interventions no existence.
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 12/07/20, 11:11

Chinese retrospective study published in The Lancet on patients with rheumatic disease

Chinese retrospective study published in The Lancet on patients with rheumatic disease

Those taking #hydroxychloroquine had a lower risk of # COVID19 infection than others
No significant effect of corticosteroids on # COVID19.
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 12/07/20, 11:29

Like I said yesterday ... the (organized?) Bullshit is on its way to start over.

Closure of covid centers in Mayenne: doctors denounce the lack of anticipation of the ARS and worry


Coronavirus. In Mayenne, the shutdown of the eight Covid-19 centers worries doctors

Closure of covid centers in Mayenne: doctors denounce the lack of anticipation of the ARS and worry

This Friday, July 10, 2020 evening, the eight covid centers ceased to operate in Mayenne. Doctors regret the decision of the ARS not to have extended the device.


And during this time it is always the same who works, whose number of tests is increasing and which takes care of all the confirmed cases detected: the IHU of Raoult in Marseille

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by Christophe » 12/07/20, 11:32

No weaker ... none according to Raoult ... he had said it again to the commission of inquiry: no patient treated chronically at HCQ had tested positive ...

This does not mean that these patients have (or have not) been in contact with the virus ... when we have chronic rheumatism we generally go out less ...
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by izentrop » 12/07/20, 15:28

Christophe wrote:This formula alone seems dishonest to me: "Remdesivir has been able to show an effectiveness, but which remains extremely relative"
Relative to what? Ah yes that sounds classier than saying weak ...
The study showed that patients treated with remdesivir recovered after about 11 days, compared to 15 days for those on placebo. This effect was not observed in patients with mild to moderate disease (the time to recovery was 5 days for the remdesivir group and the placebo group).
It is weak but better than the Raoult protocol which has proved nothing to it. :P
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