Covid-19 and the Spanish flu: have we learned the lessons of 1920?
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Big flop and no excuse, as usual .... But as you blew your nose ABC2019 !!! magnificent...
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ABC2019 wrote:Obamot wrote:Another proof of your incompetence in the matter, the blood pH is absolutely stable otherwise you can die. The pH which can vary is the urine pH ...
ah ok, that must be it, then, piss-vinegar ...
Ah ok, is this your new angle of attack? After "the guru is angry", there is "vinegar piss". Ok, I take note. More and more pathetic.
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he will quickly rush to AFIS to find fallacious arguments there and at best on Wikipedia in copy and paste of which he will attribute the knowledge to himself! ... like Pastor his idol!
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No we have not learned the lessons in all areas, including:
media manipulation by pharmaceutical companies
Small retrospective ... in 1976, they played on the fear of 20 million deaths from the Spanish flu!
History repeats itself, in 2010 ... same scenario ....
This time the agents of the pharmacies have found a way to rig the epidemiological curves ... and the causes of death! But this time some of their agents sold the fuse by admitting that it had been more than ten years since the health authorities had been infiltrated. At least two died of it “mysteriously”, the very author of the PCR tests, and an ex-VRP of pharmas in the USA, Brandy Vaughan sante-pollution-prevention/vaccinations-et-sante-pour-ou-contre-t11411-890.html?hilit=d%C3%A9c%C3%A9d%C3%A9e#p423958
And no vaccine has stopped the flu to date!
This pseudo health crisis is above all a crisis of media manipulation and disinformation, that at least everyone agrees on this, the pro-vaxx accusing the anti-vaxx of conspiracy and vice versa (of links of 'interests...)
media manipulation by pharmaceutical companies
Janic wrote:... like Pastor his idol!
Small retrospective ... in 1976, they played on the fear of 20 million deaths from the Spanish flu!
History repeats itself, in 2010 ... same scenario ....
This time the agents of the pharmacies have found a way to rig the epidemiological curves ... and the causes of death! But this time some of their agents sold the fuse by admitting that it had been more than ten years since the health authorities had been infiltrated. At least two died of it “mysteriously”, the very author of the PCR tests, and an ex-VRP of pharmas in the USA, Brandy Vaughan sante-pollution-prevention/vaccinations-et-sante-pour-ou-contre-t11411-890.html?hilit=d%C3%A9c%C3%A9d%C3%A9e#p423958
And no vaccine has stopped the flu to date!
This pseudo health crisis is above all a crisis of media manipulation and disinformation, that at least everyone agrees on this, the pro-vaxx accusing the anti-vaxx of conspiracy and vice versa (of links of 'interests...)
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It just came out ... comparison of the deaths of the Spanish flu VS Covid, I imagine, I hope it is on the same duration of the pandemic (answer: Ah no! So in the end the covid will be much worse .. .at least in the USA ...):
https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/socie ... 58868.html
This is also interesting for those who minimize COVID:
https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/socie ... 58868.html
This is also interesting for those who minimize COVID:
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After all, is it 50 million euros for the Spanish flu? I had 20 M in mind ... damn!
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Christophe wrote:It just came out ... comparison of the deaths of the Spanish flu VS Covid, I imagine, I hope it is on the same duration of the pandemic (answer: Ah no! So in the end the covid will be much worse .. .at least in the USA ...):
It would still be necessary to relate to the population, which increased more in the US than in France over this period.
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Christophe wrote:After all, is it 50 million euros for the Spanish flu? I had 20 M in mind ... damn!
Yes, but in 1918, there were not yet 2 billion inhabitants on earth. So, we are far from the same mortality with the covid.
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Exact !
The cow I managed to agree on one point!
After some people will say that life is priceless and that a dead person is a dead ...
ps: on this graph it would be interesting to add * the deaths from malnutrition and junk food (roughly 35 million deaths per year for each) ... direct consequences of capitalism! Oh no so we can't say it !! Especially not to criticize the god profit !! Sehr Verbotten!
* but ultimately no because it would not fit on the scale ... absolute or relative!
The cow I managed to agree on one point!
After some people will say that life is priceless and that a dead person is a dead ...
ps: on this graph it would be interesting to add * the deaths from malnutrition and junk food (roughly 35 million deaths per year for each) ... direct consequences of capitalism! Oh no so we can't say it !! Especially not to criticize the god profit !! Sehr Verbotten!
* but ultimately no because it would not fit on the scale ... absolute or relative!
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Christophe wrote:
This is also interesting for those who minimize COVID
There is nothing to minimize or hysterize, there is to publish, find correct figures ...
Without wanting to be categorical, at the time, people had better immunity, on the other hand it was a situation of population exhaustion after the First World War, and people did not all have their fill and did not really know what made them die, today we know better.
On the other hand, recently, there has been an increase in life expectancy (over the past ten years) but the covid has had a noticeable impact on the net stop of this trend (well yes, there is a moment when it time to go ...)
At the time of the Spanish flu, there were not the same “virus ecosystems” and currently there are 80% of pathologies that lead to co-morbidities ... so it is not comparable. For proof the junk food in the USA which leads to the cinstat of the study, it is after all not for plums!
And do not forget that we have kept the Spanish flu virus in immune memory (and yes ...), the comparison is therefore relatively obsolete.
Without being too mistaken, here is, among other things, the type of “reasonable” aspects that it would be well to interpret to establish correct comparative statistics: going through the puzzle of weightings, and not just ... comparing raw figures!
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