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Re: Covid-19 vaccine: what if we never found one like HIV AIDS?

by ABC2019 » 18/01/21, 07:22

izentrop wrote:You have to give your sources the experts, because even Yazdan does not know https://www.bfmtv.com/replay-emissions/ ... 70153.html

that's what I said we don't know :). But indeed if ever the vaccine immunity did not last a year, or if new variants appear that escape it, we would be in trouble. But that's no reason not to try ...
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Re: Covid-19 vaccine: what if we never found one like HIV AIDS?

by Janic » 18/01/21, 09:52

that's what I said we don't know :). But indeed if ever the vaccine immunity did not last a year, or if new variants appear that escape it, we would be in trouble. But that's no reason not to try ...
phew, finally, he finally recognizes that there is something he does not know, after it has already been said and repeated many times. There is progress.
However, the only thing we do not know concerns ONLY cases with mRNA, for the others we have more than a century of statistics which have not changed since. However, according to current surveys, about half of the population refuses to be vaccinated out of caution, which would indeed allow real comparisons to be made, if there is no usual little tampering.
Let us also remember that among very old people, the media jam has a devastating influence on those who no longer know where they are, Coué method in action, and with family circle often putting pressure; and then we talk about free choice! :? As these people testify, if they do not get vaccinated, they are socially excluded, which at this age is worse than the disease.
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Re: Covid-19 vaccine: what if we never found one like HIV AIDS?

by Christophe » 18/01/21, 09:56

izentrop wrote:You have to give your sources the experts, because even Yazdan does not know https://www.bfmtv.com/replay-emissions/ ... 70153.html


Since when is not knowing a scientific argument? : Shock: : Shock: : Shock:

In emergency medicine it is yes or no !! The method works or not ... we do not know is not allowed ...

But generally when we say we don't know it's no ...
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Re: Covid-19 vaccine: what if we never found one like HIV AIDS?

by Christophe » 18/01/21, 09:58

ABC2019 wrote:
izentrop wrote:You have to give your sources the experts, because even Yazdan does not know https://www.bfmtv.com/replay-emissions/ ... 70153.html

that's what I said we don't know :). But indeed if ever the vaccine immunity did not last a year, or if new variants appear that escape it, we would be in trouble. But that's no reason not to try ...


Me no!

The press service of pfizer (or Astrazenaca) has promised us that their vaccine works on mutations : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
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Re: Covid-19 vaccine: what if we never found one like HIV AIDS?

by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 19/01/21, 00:29

Due to indirect risks, would the vaccines currently administered be not recommended for the elderly with co-morbidities?

In this case how many would there be left in EPHAD of vaccinable elderly people?

China Health Experts Call for Suspension of COVID Vaccines as Norway Investigates 33 Deaths, Germany Probes 10 Deaths
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Re: Covid-19 vaccine: what if we never found one like HIV AIDS?

by Janic » 19/01/21, 08:57

Adrien (ex-nico239) »19/01/21, 01:29 AM
Due to indirect risks, would the vaccines currently administered be not recommended for the elderly with co-morbidities?
Oh! who would dare to question the sacred word of big pharma provaxxes? Fortunately there are two breasts of this type of medicine: chance and coincidence.

In this case how many would there be left in EPHAD of vaccinable elderly people?

China Health Experts Call for Suspension of COVID Vaccines as Norway Investigates 33 Deaths, Germany Probes 10 Deaths

However, even without obvious comorbidities due to the natural weakening of the immune system widely known and established by all doctors, this fragile population should not be vaccinated. [*]
When a donkey gets old and bends under its usual load, it should not be increased, but on the contrary reduced and they are doing the opposite now!
These Romans are crazy, sorry BP doctors !: twisted:

[*] hence this bogus and contradictory discourse that non-fragile populations must be vaccinated to protect fragile people. Oh, guys, if the latter are vaccinated, then they believe protected, then there's no point in vaccinating the former. : roll:
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Re: Covid-19 vaccine: what if we never found one like HIV AIDS?

by Christophe » 19/01/21, 09:04

Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:Due to indirect risks, would the vaccines currently administered be not recommended for the elderly with co-morbidities?

In this case how many would there be left in EPHAD of vaccinable elderly people?

China Health Experts Call for Suspension of COVID Vaccines as Norway Investigates 33 Deaths, Germany Probes 10 Deaths


The scientific scam of the labs will not last very long, but as they signed discharges in irresponsibility ... They must be having a good time now!

It's still strange that there was neither death nor allergic reaction on the cohort of 20 ... did it even really exist or is it one more lie in this health crisis?



Politicians who have not done their job of verification deserve jail!
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Re: Covid-19 vaccine: what if we never found one like HIV AIDS?

by Christophe » 19/01/21, 09:06

There is no evidence that nurse Tiffany Dover is dead

Nurse Tiffany Dover has been famous in the anti-vaccine world since she passed out live on December 17 while receiving a dose of the vaccine. Since then, the most determined opponents of vaccination have been spreading rumors that she is dead, or demanding proof to the contrary. As of December 18, however, Tiffany Dover explained on local television that she regularly had vagal discomfort, the fault of a very low tolerance to pain.

The rumors continued, however. CHI Memorial Hospital in Tennessee has repeatedly confirmed that she is fine, by Tweet on December 19, then on video on December 21, or in a statement to Reuters news agency on December 28. On December 29, the WRCB channel published a new report, in which the young woman appeared in good health, although frightened by the lingering rumors of her death. The hospital also explains receiving requests from all over the world, and declares that it no longer wishes to grant interviews.


So there's no proof that nurse Tiffany Dover is alive? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

No, there were not 50 deaths from the vaccine in the Alpes-Maritimes

On Twitter, anti-vaccine accounts broadcast Monday, January 18 the rumor that the vaccine would have killed 50 elderly people in the Alpes-Maritimes. As proof, they brandish the “one” of Nice-Matin of January 17, entitled “Hecatomb in the nursing homes”. This is a crude attempt at disinformation: the article available online specifies that these people died from Covid-19, and not from the consequences of the vaccination.


So they weren't vaccinated yet?

An investigation opened after the death of an American doctor

Three days after receiving an injection, Gregory Michael, a 56-year-old gynecologist and obstetrician living in Florida, developed a severe form of immunologic thrombocytopenic purpura, a blood disease sometimes seen in a mild form after certain vaccinations, especially against measles. , mumps and rubella. He died of a brain hemorrhage on January 4, XNUMX days after his vaccination. Local and federal health agencies, as well as manufacturer Pfizer, have launched an investigation, reports The New York Times. At the time of writing, the conclusions are not known. Dr Michael did not have a medical history. A rare reaction to the vaccine is not excluded.


56 years old in great shape ... killed by an ... experimental vaccine!

23 dead among frail elderly people in Norway

The Statens legemiddelverk, the Norwegian medicines agency, announced on January 15 that it had recorded "23 deaths associated with vaccination against Covid-19", of which 13 have been the subject of an in-depth assessment. According to the agency's chief medical officer, Sigurd Hortemo, "reports suggest that the usual side effects of messenger RNA vaccines, such as fever and nausea, may have contributed to the deaths of some fragile patients."

At the time of this finding, 42 people had been vaccinated in Norway, mainly the population considered to be exposed or fragile, such as the elderly. The Statens legemiddelverk notes that the studies conducted by BioNTech and Pfizer included few seriously ill people or over the age of 000, but this is nonetheless a population in which mortality is naturally high. On average, 85 people die every week in Norwegian nursing homes.
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Re: Covid-19 vaccine: what if we never found one like HIV AIDS?

by izentrop » 19/01/21, 22:28

That's it ! it was okay : Wink:
"Regarding the cause of death there was no analysis," she also said. “The most important thing is to remember that there are 45 people who die every day in nursing homes in Norway. So it is not established that there is an excess mortality or that it is linked to vaccines, ”said the health official.

However, after the death report, Norway has reiterated in recent days its recommendation for a medical evaluation before the vaccine is administered to a very fragile or dying person, as is already the case in other countries. .
https://www.tdg.ch/pas-de-lien-entre-le ... 1280882583
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Re: Covid-19 vaccine: what if we never found one like HIV AIDS?

by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 19/01/21, 22:37

izentrop wrote:That's it ! it was okay : Wink:

Indeed, it is not so serious:
https://www.ladepeche.fr/2021/01/19/cov ... 321027.php
They would have died of a cold, the flu or covid anyway.
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