I see that we are on the same wavelength ... So I inserted the video directly on the site: https://www.econologie.com/crise-des-con ... -4017.html
With a link to this discussion ...
For burnt cars, New Year's Eve is only the norm "times 10" ... since 35 cars are burned per year in France ...
We talked about it a few days ago with gegyx but I no longer find the subject ...
Sarkozy: 26 Billion for the automobile and housing ...
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Hey op ca continuous !! The builders are SINGING to the government job !! Whore method ...
Zon what to sell their shitty car if they want liquidated?
How many billions of profits have they made in recent years?
What about other professions? They can obviously sink!
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/speciale ... t_psa.html
Guarantees Sarko can be wiped with in a few months ... We bet?
Here pkoi I get angry so quickly
Zon what to sell their shitty car if they want liquidated?
How many billions of profits have they made in recent years?
What about other professions? They can obviously sink!
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/speciale ... t_psa.html
State lends 6,5 billion to Renault and PSA in exchange for job guarantees NOUVELOBS.COM | 09.02.2009/18/43 | XNUMX:XNUMX p.m.
Nicolas Sarkozy announces a battery of measures for a total of 7,8 billion euros, in order to support the two automobile groups and their subcontractors. In return, Renault and Peugeot Citroën undertake not to implement a social plan.
Nicolas Sarkozy announced Monday, February 9, a series of measures to support the French automotive industry, for a total of 7,8 billion euros, in exchange for guarantees in employment:
- The State is lending 6,5 billion euros to Renault, PSA and Renault Trucks.
- State aid to Renault and PSA financial institutions is doubled to 2 billion
- Aid to subcontractors is doubled, to 600 million.
Guarantees Sarko can be wiped with in a few months ... We bet?
Here pkoi I get angry so quickly
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Christophe wrote:For burnt cars, New Year's Eve is only the norm "times 10" ... since 35 cars are burned per year in France ...
We talked about it a few days ago with gegyx but I no longer find the subject ...
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post110351.html#110351
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For the figures: on Fr2, Pajudas clearly marked the pronunciation of a "loan" of 6 billion
To make it clear zizycossard confirmed: loan of 6 billion with 6% interest "
Then a diagram with the addition 3 for Rinault, 3 for Pigeot.
Government TV becomes educational.
My opinion:
3 billion to keep jobs in France, no longer build abroad, modernize investment, make cars that the French want, it is not behind the scenes ...
Here Ghosn, must also take care of the dismal results of Nissan.
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gegyx wrote:My opinion:
3 billion to keep jobs in France, no longer build abroad, modernize investment, make cars that the French want, it is not behind the scenes ...
It's beautiful the "theory" ... but it does not work like that in practice! Remember what sarko promised the metal guys 1 year ago ... Blablabla ...
Then, there are millions of artisans who are going to go bankrupt and who have already gone bankrupt because they lack 2, 3 or 5, 10 000 € to pay a supplier or social or employer charges ... and that the loan is refused by their bank ...
So even on loan (I read correctly) it is unfair and undemocratic to lend to car manufacturers, who have also made BILLIONs of figures in recent years!
Economically: requesting a loan for working capital is furious madness because it only delays the deadline and makes the FALL worse!
No matter what ... this is an opportunity for PSA and Renault to review their copy and make more eco-friendly cars (like micro cars after the war!)
PSA doesn't look so bad: http://www.boursorama.com/graphiques/gr ... ymbole=PSA
But Renault dived well: http://www.boursorama.com/graphiques/gr ... ole=1rPRNO
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Christophe wrote:Then, there are millions of artisans who are going to go bankrupt and who have already gone bankrupt because they lack 2, 3 or 5, 10 000 € to pay a supplier or social or employer charges ... and that the loan is refused by their bank ...
In the game of the catcher-couillon, we do better in Belgium. € 6 billion to recapitalize Dexia, which thanks the Belgian federal state by reducing the divides of the municipalities, some of which had many. In the Brussels region, a municipality lost over 100.000 € in its cash register and, moreover, Dexia no longer guaranteed them the usual 13%. And hop, second checkout. And of course now that the Dexia and consort cases are overflowing, customers are invited to borrow but only if they represent a cake of more than € 100.000. Ah, we only lend to the rich, especially in these times ... Pfff, puppets all that, in 2 years these donkeys will no longer have 1 ball in their pocket!
And there, I still hope that everyone will piss them off. and the same for the French, the Dutch, the Germans, the Ugandans, ...
No matter what ... this is an opportunity for PSA and Renault to review their copy and make more eco-friendly cars (like micro cars after the war!)
http://www.ina.fr/economie-et-societe/environnement-et-urbanisme/video/CAF86014983/a-quand-la-voiture-electrique.fr.html
Do not die PSA and Renault, no need for them to move and meet.
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FPLM wrote:http://www.ina.fr/economie-et-societe/environnement-et-urbanisme/video/CAF86014983/a-quand-la-voiture-electrique.fr.html
Do not die PSA and Renault, no need for them to move and meet.
The entirety of this very good video (and very politically incorrect compared to the current marketing of manufacturers) can be viewed here:
https://www.econologie.com/la-voiture-el ... -4123.html
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