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Need advice on power shower in microwave




by clincks » 20/04/09, 14:43

Hello,

I found a shower model that heats water on demand using a "microwave" system.

The "problem" ... is the amperage: between 88 & 100 Amps.

-> I have a three-phase meter ... what should I check to be sure the meter is powerful enough?

Here are the manufacturer's recommendations:
Energy Requirements
- Voltage: 208/240 Volts
- Breakers: Two 60 am breakers @ 220V
- Kilowatts: 18/24
- Amperage: 88/100 Amps
- Wire Size: 2x6 / 2x6 Gauge

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by Christophe » 20/04/09, 21:01

Uh 100 a : Shock: is it in 12V or what?

Ah no ... mwarf 18 kW, few individuals have a subscription that does that ... at least in Europe ...

Do you have a url or pdf on these products?
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by elephant » 20/04/09, 21:35

and the price of this gadget ????
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by Christophe » 20/04/09, 21:58

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by clincks » 21/04/09, 07:36

The product costs a few hundred euros (around 400 €) ... depending on the supplier and the power of the model.

The advantage of the product:
No more hot water ... we only heat what we actually use. Since it is microwave as a heating system ... the output is very good.

Disadvantage:
This product is not found in Europe.

http://www.stiebel-eltron-usa.com/pdf/brochure_fr_tempra.pdf

Regarding the electrical installation ... I am in an old house where the meter is quite old ... and three-phase.
I would have liked to know how to check the power of my meter ... if someone can guide me in this would be nice.

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by elephant » 21/04/09, 08:02

Where do you see elements in microwaves in the pdf of the link ????

It is an electronic regulation, but heating resistors. It is not the first electric snapshot on the market, except for electronic regulation.
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by Christophe » 21/04/09, 11:31

elephant wrote:Where do you see elements in microwaves in the pdf of the link ????

It is an electronic regulation, but heating resistors. It is not the first electric snapshot on the market, except for electronic regulation.


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It is a "beast" instantaneous water heater but the power is "American" : Shock:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/chauffe-ea ... t7292.html

I'm just (pleasantly) surprised that it is translated (as well) into French since it seems intended for the US market ... maybe for Quebecers?
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by boubka » 21/04/09, 12:11

Hello
I found the powers crazy enough for mono but this is not the case. it is the table which is badly made.
12 kw in mono
from 15 to 24 kw two-phase (protec = 2x60a)
from 24 to 36 kw three phase (protec = 3x 60a)
in fact it is a single phase element of 12 kw and depending on the power there is one two or three.
so in your case if you want to install a 24 or 36 kw you need 60 amperes on a sorting meter (it is therefore usable for the individual in Europe)
you use 2 phases for the water heater and you keep the 3 rd for the rest of the house.
there are no microwaves in there.
to answer your question on the amperage of the circuit breaker, it must display at least 60 amperes over 2 phases
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by boubka » 21/04/09, 12:23

I rectify the thermal baths before being reminded to order
from 15 to 24 kw 2phases + neutral (2x60 A)
from 24 to 36 kw 3 phases + neutral (3x60A)

so 2 x mono or 3x mono c that's why they put 1 phase in the table

the diphase or triphase therm would be between phases which is not the case it is between phases and neutral

here is : Cry:
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by boubka » 21/04/09, 13:01

Hello Christophe

Ah no ... mwarf 18 kW, few individuals have a subscription that does that ... at least in Europe ...


It is true that there must not be masses ... it's been more than 200 euro diff on the subscription compared to a standard of 6 kw

but the special EDF offer still goes up to 36 kW ... and it is 800 euro more on the subscription
http://www.edf-bleuciel.fr/accueil/j-ai ... 41626.html
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