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Re: Advances in the fight against the coronavirus




by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 27/11/21, 15:59

ABC2019 wrote:
Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:We have always done everything in this crisis to make up the fact that we let the epidemic spread quietly to keep the country in a state of emergency.

the real reason for letting the epidemic spread "quietly" is not to keep the country in a state of emergency, moreover measures are relaxed when the number of contaminations stagnates or falls. The real reason is to let the virus immunize those for whom the vaccine is not sufficient, or who are not vaccinated, and unfortunately to let die those for whom we will not be able to do anything, in order to end up being able to find a normal life without emergency state. We have seen with the example of countries which have tried the "zero virus" that it does not work either, because it always leaves a large fraction of the population unprotected, so it is only to reduce the problem.


Are we in a state of emergency yes or no?
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 27/11/21, 16:03

izentrop wrote:Hello,
ABC2019 wrote:
Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:We have always done everything in this crisis to make up the fact that we let the epidemic spread quietly to keep the country in a state of emergency.
the real reason for letting the epidemic spread "quietly" is not to keep the country in a state of emergency, moreover measures are relaxed when the number of contaminations stagnates or falls. The real reason is to let the virus immunize those for whom the vaccine is not sufficient, or who are not vaccinated, and unfortunately to let die those for whom we will not be able to do anything, in order to end up being able to find a normal life without emergency state. We have seen with the example of countries which have tried the "zero virus" that it does not work either, because it always leaves a large fraction of the population unprotected, so it is only to reduce the problem.
First of all, bravo for the answers, flawless.
I just wanted to add my two cents: Letting the epidemic spread "quietly" is also letting the economy restart, because it is very expensive to contain.
alas to let die those for whom we will not be able to do anything
On the contrary, as hospitals are no longer congested, we can better treat them.

One can notice a certain constancy among the "conspis", like the scouts: "conspi of a day, conspi always". : Mrgreen:


Letting the epidemic spread quietly without adopting the right strategy is knowingly letting people at risk die from covid
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by ABC2019 » 27/11/21, 17:20

Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:Letting the epidemic spread quietly without adopting the right strategy is knowingly letting people at risk die from covid

the best we can do to protect them is to vaccinate them. But no one imagines removing the virus, so everyone will encounter it one day or another, like colds; You have to get used to it.
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by ABC2019 » 27/11/21, 17:21

Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:
Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:We have always done everything in this crisis to make up the fact that we let the epidemic spread quietly to keep the country in a state of emergency.

the real reason for letting the epidemic spread "quietly" is not to keep the country in a state of emergency, moreover measures are relaxed when the number of contaminations stagnates or falls. The real reason is to let the virus immunize those for whom the vaccine is not sufficient, or who are not vaccinated, and unfortunately to let die those for whom we will not be able to do anything, in order to end up being able to find a normal life without emergency state. We have seen with the example of countries which have tried the "zero virus" that it does not work either, because it always leaves a large fraction of the population unprotected, so it is only to reduce the problem.


Are we in a state of emergency yes or no?

neither really, since July, we are in a "transitory" state

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jorf/id/ ... 0042101318
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 27/11/21, 17:25

We are in a state of emergency which does not say its name. Another thing you don't get ...
Government blah: https://www.service-public.fr/particuli ... tes/A14937
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 27/11/21, 17:26

ABC2019 wrote:
Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:Letting the epidemic spread quietly without adopting the right strategy is knowingly letting people at risk die from covid

the best we can do to protect them is to vaccinate them. But no one imagines removing the virus, so everyone will encounter it one day or another, like colds; You have to get used to it.


Precisely the strategy throughout the summer consisted in making a figure with age groups which represent from% 4 to 0.1% or 0.01% of deaths to the detriment of certain upper age groups.

A major mistake
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by Christophe » 27/11/21, 17:37

ABC2019 wrote:
Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:Letting the epidemic spread quietly without adopting the right strategy is knowingly letting people at risk die from covid

the best we can do to protect them is to vaccinate them.


Have you heard of OMICRON or not yet?

Otherwise you would have to think about updating ... there is everything about this forum... see the subject of variants ...
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 27/11/21, 17:56

ABC2019 wrote:
Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:the real reason for letting the epidemic spread "quietly" is not to keep the country in a state of emergency, moreover measures are relaxed when the number of contaminations stagnates or falls. The real reason is to let the virus immunize those for whom the vaccine is not sufficient, or who are not vaccinated, and unfortunately to let die those for whom we will not be able to do anything, in order to end up being able to find a normal life without emergency state. We have seen with the example of countries which have tried the "zero virus" that it does not work either, because it always leaves a large fraction of the population unprotected, so it is only to reduce the problem.


Are we in a state of emergency yes or no?

neither really, since July, we are in a "transitory" state

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jorf/id/ ... 0042101318


No

in November

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jorf/id/ ... 0044315202
Article 1
I.- At the end of article 7 of law n ° 2020-290 of 23 March 2020 emergency to deal with the epidemic of covid-19, the date: "December 31, 2021" is replaced by the date: "July 31, 2022".
II.-At the end of 5 ° of Article L. 3821-11 and in the first paragraph of Article L. 3841-2 of the Public Health Code, the date: "December 31, 2021" is replaced by the date: "July 31, 2022".



we are extending march

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/loda/id/ ... 041746313/
Emergency Law n ° 2020-290 of 23 March 2020 to deal with the covid-19 epidemic (1)
The National Assembly and the Senate have adopted,
The President of the Republic promulgates the law, the content of which follows:
Title I: THE STATE OF HEALTH EMERGENCY (Articles 1 to 8)...
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by izentrop » 27/11/21, 18:29

Christophe wrote:Have you heard of OMICRON or not yet?
Otherwise you would have to think about updating ... there is everything about this forum... see the subject of variants ...
There are some panics about it but we don't know much about it at the moment
Few patients have so far been infected with this variant, but studies suggest that it could be the cause of a new wave of contaminations ....
"The mutations of this new variant, observed on the Spike protein, raise fears that it could circumvent the vaccine efficacy, affirms Antoine Flahault. For the moment, this remains theoretical, and several weeks will probably be necessary to answer this question with certainty". For the time being, dozens of people who have tested positive for Covid-19 have been infected with this new variant. https://www.ladepeche.fr/2021/11/27/nou ... 955474.php
Delta has shown that vaccines are always effective in severe cases ...

Wait & sea ... Yes good! the sea is cold, but to walk there, there is no risk of being contaminated :P
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by Christophe » 27/11/21, 18:36

izentrop wrote:
Christophe wrote:Have you heard of OMICRON or not yet?
Otherwise you would have to think about updating ... there is everything about this forum... see the subject of variants ...
There are some panics about it but we don't know much about it at the moment
Few patients have so far been infected with this variant, but studies suggest that it could be the cause of a new wave of contaminations ....
"The mutations of this new variant, observed on the Spike protein, raise fears that it could circumvent the vaccine efficacy, affirms Antoine Flahault. For the moment, this remains theoretical, and several weeks will probably be necessary to answer this question with certainty". For the time being, dozens of people who have tested positive for Covid-19 have been infected with this new variant. https://www.ladepeche.fr/2021/11/27/nou ... 955474.php
Delta has shown that vaccines are always effective in severe cases ...

Wait & sea ... Yes good! the sea is cold, but to walk there, there is no risk of being contaminated :P


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