The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

[Obamot]

There is nothing to explain because this statement is totally false.

What if you started by answering this STP

Indeed, CQFD.
And it is much more scientific than homeopathic medicines, which we know so well that they have no effect that they do not pass the tests required for real medicines. What would be the interest of testing a powder of perlimpine which we know that the effect is placebo and that there is no more risk than with powdered sugar?
If Doctors H really believed in the efficacy of their perlimpine powders, I am sure they would request the same clinical trials for their drugs as for the others. But they know they can't prove anything beyond the placebo effect. Charlatans, but not idiots.

I stay on my hunger!
The placebo effect in detail, you see it how you

[Janic]

well if why? I just said that it was normal to require a minimal dilution considering the crap that one puts there at the beginning, what is the problem of French?

Considering the crap that is put in BP's meds which do not even dilute at the risk of making patients even sicker, you are laughing once again!
Now if you are smarter, fairer than the legislator, nominate them. The pov '!!!!

This is what you can't read:

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jorf/id/ ... 0000387206
https://solidarites-sante.gouv.fr/soins ... opathic
https://www.codes-et-lois.fr/code-de-la ... e-integral
https://www.senat.fr/questions/base/200 ... 14262.html
etc ...
Where in all this legislation of successive governments, Do we find a single mention that homeopathy is designated as charlatan and liable to the law that you indicate above! I suspect that you know better than them. Even your friends from AFIS do not risk it. and yet they are seriously itchy! Your narcissism once again!

[ABC2019]

well if why? I just said that it was normal to require a minimal dilution considering the crap that one puts there at the beginning, what is the problem of French?

Considering the crap that is put in BP's meds which do not even dilute at the risk of making patients even sicker, you are laughing once again!

in the case of drugs A, there are also permitted therapeutic dosages, and overdoses are just as illegal, this is quite normal.

Now if you are smarter, fairer than the legislator, nominate them. The pov '!!!!

This is what you can't read:

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jorf/id/ ... 0000387206
https://solidarites-sante.gouv.fr/soins ... opathic
https://www.codes-et-lois.fr/code-de-la ... e-integral
https://www.senat.fr/questions/base/200 ... 14262.html
etc ...
Where in all this legislation of successive governments, Do we find a single mention that homeopathy is designated as charlatan and liable to the law that you indicate above! I suspect that you know better than them. Even your friends from AFIS do not risk it. and yet they are seriously itchy! Your narcissism once again!

I have already told you that it is not illegal to give sugar in addition to a real medicine, what is illegal for a doctor is to replace a real effective treatment with a fake one.

Obviously, the law authorizes the use of "medicines" H while not applying the rules of medicines to them (proof of efficacy), so "homeopathic medicine" is a phrase which does not concern a real medicine (there is has other examples in French, for example a "potato" is not an apple.) Otherwise there would be no need for specific texts for "homeopathic medicines", generic ones for medicines would suffice, and you would not have had to give specific links for the H.

[Janic]

I have already told you that it is not illegal to give sugar in addition to a real medicine, what is illegal for a doctor is to replace a real effective treatment with a fake one.

Re Ah, ah, ah! Unbelievable you take lawmakers for idiots as if they did not know the difference between the two. It is true that you, unlike them, you know!
In medicine, as in any profession for that matter, it is in the field that theories, assumptions, rantings of all kinds are verified. And there, we are no longer in these theories, but in reality and, these are the therapists and the patients who say by what they experience (in A as in H) the veracity of the theories, in their flesh, not in books or forums. and even less coming from an incompetent in medicine who fantasizes constantly!

Obviously, the law authorizes the use of "drugs" H while not applying the rules of drugs to them (proof of effectiveness),

Funny! how is any efficiency measured? In the field, according to processes adapted to the object in question, and by expert professionals, not by professionals who are not experts in the field concerned.

therefore "homeopathic medicine" is a phrase which does not relate to a real medicine (there are other examples in French, for example a "potato" is not an apple.) Otherwise there would be no need specific texts for "homeopathic medicines", generic ones for medicines would suffice, and you would not have had to give specific links for H].

This is hollow, meaningless talk.

So you think, once again, that lawmakers are ignoring all of this and have been waiting for you? What a self-centered narcissist!
So, since you cited one section of the law, here is another:legal him !

The Public Health Code (article L.5111-1) defines the drug as follows:
"Any substance or composition presented as having curative or preventive properties with regard to human or animal diseases, as well as any substance or composition which may be used in humans or animals or which may be administered to them, with a view to '' establish a medical diagnosis or restore, correct or modify their physiological functions by exerting a pharmacological, immunological or metabolic action. "

https://solidarites-sante.gouv.fr/soins ... medicament

So you dispute their definition by wanting to replace it with your delirium?

[pedrodelavega]

Funny! how is any efficiency measured? In the field, according to processes adapted to the object in question, and by expert professionals, not by professionals who are not experts in the field concerned.

You don't have to be a homeopath to see the effect of homeopathy. The outcome is the same as for any other therapy: Cure and / or improvement in health and / or symptoms. That, a "simple" doctor can see it or any other competent scientist.

"how is any efficiency measured?"
By comparing 2 groups, one treated with the treatment and one treated with a placebo of this treatment. All randomized, double-blind to limit bias and evaluated in the end.
This method applies to any therapy, and the sponsor and evaluator of the trial do not need to be "expert" in the therapy being tested, only practitioners who deliver in the cohort need to be. .

[ABC2019]

I have already told you that it is not illegal to give sugar in addition to a real medicine, what is illegal for a doctor is to replace a real effective treatment with a fake one.

Re Ah, ah, ah! Unbelievable you take lawmakers for idiots as if they did not know the difference between the two. It is true that you, unlike them, you know!

yes finally there I said exactly the opposite, that they precisely knew to make the difference between the two, certain things are tolerated and others not.

In medicine, as in any profession for that matter, it is in the field that theories, assumptions, rantings of all kinds are verified. And there, we are no longer in these theories, but in reality and, these are the therapists and the patients who say by what they experience (in A as in H) the veracity of the theories,

why are there texts specific to H. , whose links you sent, then, if it were the same principles and the same rules as the others?

[Janic]

pedrodelavega »27 / 11 / 20, 10: 27

You don't have to be a homeopath to see the effect of homeopathy. The outcome is the same as for any other therapy: Cure and / or improvement in health and / or symptoms. That, a "simple" doctor can see it or any other competent scientist.

That's right

"how is any efficiency measured?"
By comparing 2 groups, one treated with the treatment and one treated with a placebo of this treatment. All randomized, double-blind to limit bias and evaluated in the end.

There, it is not, since it errs through reasoning bias. If in a trade (any one) we submit a specific product to your kind of reasoning it can work, but not by comparing one trade with another. We do not compare the products of electricians with those of plumbers even if they work in the same building.

This method applies to any therapy, and the sponsor and evaluator of the trial do not need to be "expert" in the therapy being tested, only practitioners who deliver in the cohort need to be. .

There; that's right, there is no need to be a plumber yourself to see if the hot or cold water is flowing from the tap and if the button turns on the lamp. This is called the field experience.
So if a sick person (hundreds, thousands, millions around the world) FINDS that the water is flowing and the electricity turns on. It does not matter whether or not it corresponds to criteria called standardized by some.
Thus, in Europe, then in the world »the metric standard has largely replaced the Anglo-Saxon standards of inches, feet, etc. yet in plumbing, among others, the American standard remains a standard and the two are not not interchangeable and yet the taps flow… what a wonder.
The standards of allopathy are not those of H and ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE however, this is what those who do not bother to study the question, for reasons that have nothing to do with the sick, do not want to understand. Two systems, two results of their own.
Some may try to light the lamps with their tap, it will not work more than having water at the "electric ignition button."

[ABC2019]

The standards of allopathy are not those of H and ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE however, this is what those who do not bother to study the question, for reasons that have nothing to do with the sick, do not want to understand. Two systems, two results of their own.

the scientific method is not specific to A., it gives identical verification standards in all sciences, physics, chemistry, geology, biology, etc ... and all these sciences have no difficulty in recognizing other fields like other sciences.

does H. for you is simply another discipline but which shares the same standards of verification, or is it breaking free?

[ABC2019]

and another question, is there a legal text which deals specifically with "allopathic" medicine and defines this category?

[Janic]

he scientific method is not specific to A., it gives identical verification standards in all sciences, physics, chemistry, geology, biology, etc ... and all these sciences have no difficulty in recognizing other fields like other sciences.

does H. for you is simply another discipline but which shares the same standards of verification, or is it breaking free?

In the doghouse the pug!