Ok I know the manipulation but I did not know that the fact of removing the back seats could make pass in utility / van any vehicle ... I thought that it was reserved for certain jigs ...
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In fact, you do not "remove" the seats in an existing car, you "make" a car without a rear seat.Christophe wrote:Ok I know the manipulation but I did not know that the fact of removing the back seats could make pass in utility / van any vehicle ... I thought that it was reserved for certain jigs ...
Suddenly, it is automatically in the category CTTE from its first registration (with its advantages ... and its disadvantages).
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In Belgium the conversion of an existing vehicle is possible and removing the rear seats and attachment points. Long live Europe!
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I believe that in France it is still possible in this sense ... but it must not happen often (commercial models are bought by companies, so new ...)Christophe wrote:In Belgium the conversion of an existing vehicle is possible and removing the rear seats and attachment points. Long live Europe!
In the other direction, it is (almost) forbidden (it allowed to save on the VAT of the new car then to spend it in VP after one year).
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I do not understand the concept of "almost" prohibited!
When we see the rates of TVS (Corporate Vehicle Tax) on non-commercial vehicles ... it's scary!
A 9 tax HP (therefore non-utility) is around 4000 € per year ... this kind of tax is just "funny" ... on utilities it's much more reasonable but with TVS, the France clearly killed the "company car" as there may have been a moment (this is called a benefit in kind)!
When we see the rates of TVS (Corporate Vehicle Tax) on non-commercial vehicles ... it's scary!
A 9 tax HP (therefore non-utility) is around 4000 € per year ... this kind of tax is just "funny" ... on utilities it's much more reasonable but with TVS, the France clearly killed the "company car" as there may have been a moment (this is called a benefit in kind)!
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It is forbidden except for some special cases (from memory, the age of the car, the fact that it was originally produced with the back seat and some other very restrictive criteria).Christophe wrote:I do not understand the concept of "almost" prohibited!
Basically, for all new cars today, it's forbidden.
It is done differently now, through a rental company, but actually it does not pass below the tax radar.Christophe wrote:with TVS, France has clearly killed the "company car" as there may have been for a while (this is called a benefit in kind)!
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In the page cited at the beginning http://www.ecopra.com/fr/component/k2/i ... ergie-2018 on the result of the test done by the Polish lab, I may be bigleux, but not seen trace of the official test report.
Just a few affirmations
I need more to convince myself
Just a few affirmations
whose only "proof" is a table of which the details of the abbreviations are missingDeclining fuel consumption results in 32.53% fuel economy from the first meters.
up to 90% CO drop.
up to 67% drop of Nox and Fine Particles.
I need more to convince myself
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izentrop wrote: on the result of the test done by the Polish lab, I may be bigleux, but not seen trace of the official test report.
Me neither, but I'm actually bigleux!
Indeed it's a shame, because as we saw by reading a bit carefully the Bureau Veritas report for the other test, the devil is often in the details.
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The latest Ecopra video:
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izentrop wrote:I need more to convince myself
Everybody lies. I'm lying, Ecopra and Veritas lie, the customers (certainly false testimonials), the Polish lab and the painting is undoubtedly fake. You're pretty terrifying, like ...
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