The homeopathy explained metaphorically for Dummies

[Janic]

homeopathic sports doctor at INSEP, to listen to the skeptics.

[pedrodelavega]

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Claire Séverac does she tell anything?

Listening to this interview, difficult to take the author Claire Séverac seriously, as she mixes everything and anything, in a kind of infamous porridge without tail or head. I want to take this story of "chemtrails" seriously, yet must master its subject, bring serious evidence, verifiable facts, and not from delusions worthy of a series Z scenario.

[sen-no-sen]

Beware of syllogisms like this ... Fire Claire Severac has indeed defended particularly dubious theses (such as chemtrails and other conspiracy theses), but that does not call into question the question of homeopathy.
This is not because a person interested in a subject would be in error on other points that for all that it would invalidate said subject.

[Janic]

Beware of syllogisms of this kind ... Claire Severac has indeed defended particularly dubious theses (such as chemtrails and other conspiracy theories), but it does not question the issue of homeopathy.
This is not because a person interested in a subject would be in error on other points that for all that it would invalidate said subject.

especially on this video is Dr. Gardenal who expresses his opinion and his experience as a doctor appointed top athletes, not the low end! and it works no matter what the (c) epics say.

(and other conspiracy theses),

it would be interesting to define exactly what a conspiracy thesis really is
A conspiracy theory - also referred to more recently by neologisms conspiracy or conspiracy1 - proposes to give a vision of history perceived as the product of the action of an occult group acting in the shadows. Far from mere rumor, it is (according to Peter Knight of the University of Manchester) a theoretical narrative that claims to be coherent and seeks to demonstrate the existence of a conspiracy understood as the fact that "a a small group of powerful people secretly co-ordinate themselves to plan and undertake illegal and harmful action affecting the course of events "2. The secret civil, criminal, or political conspiracy of the conspiracy theory would generally act in order to possess or retain an absolute form of power (political, economic, or religious).
But there are two possible dimensions and even more. This theory of conspiracy or conspiracy thesis is here specified as acting in the shadows (of the spitting Hitchcock) while it is probably more hidden actions than open to the knowledge of the general public ( from time to time unveiled by ducks like duck chained (not unleashed elsewhere!) who denounce these plots that are no longer theories then).
Thus absolute powers such as royalty, imperialism, religious domination, etc .; have always acted to the detriment of less powerful, illiterate most of the time, so in ignorance of what could fall on their heads. But times have changed, illiteracy has almost disappeared, multimedia brings to the knowledge of what should have been ignored by the public and therefore must also be muzzled by other more subtle means such as to announce as a theory of conspiracy. that some time later will be updated because no longer able to be hidden, the famous scandals more or less important elsewhere.

"A small group of powerful people secretly coordinate to plan and take action ILLEGAL AND NEFAST affecting the course of events"

This is the point that is problematic. Indeed, the powerful in question have at their disposal armies of experts, lawyers, (and aficionados) who allow them to be at the limit of the legality without ever exceeding it or very little like not paying for taxes thanks to tax havens. And it's legal! ... but harmful.
To denounce this situation is this conspiracy theory? Flood the whole world with toxic chemicals by the earth, the water, the sky: is it conspiracy theory, same thing for nuclear etc for their harmful side always, but legal? We can go far on this path, or should we silence these rumors, no longer by imprisonment and torture, but by denigration much more subtle, or even more effective since it sets up self-censorship... that, at least, it's nice!
and therefore since this is the subject: is homeopathy the subject of a conspiracy theory?

[Gébé]

is homeopathy the subject of a conspiracy theory?

If the question is: is homeopathy a conspiracy? The answer is no.
If the question is: does homeopathy use conspiracy theory? The answer is yes.
Introducing himself as David against Goliath, the nice little against the big bad guys, it works great for business.

[Ahmed]

One should not confuse the theory of the conspiracy which implies a globalization of the phenomenon allowing, once one would be "aware" of it, a universal understanding, and the multiple small or large plots which are common currency and which can only justify some particular aspects (such as the election of Macron), for example).
This success of conspiracy comes from a false interpretation of a reality, which is the systemic character of the functioning of our thermo-industrial society. The difference being that it is not the dominant agents who direct their own evolution, but the fact that they behave precisely as zealous and obedient agents of what is overhanging them.

You write that "illiteracy has almost disappeared", certainly, but it is for the benefit of ignorance, since reading has, for a long time, been the royal route of the propaganda of the dominant. Today, it would no longer be as necessary on this level, since there is TV (which is manifested objectively by a very clear degradation of written expression).

[Janic]

janic wrote: is homeopathy the subject of a conspiracy theory?

If the question is: is homeopathy a conspiracy? The answer is no.
If the question is: does homeopathy use conspiracy theory? The answer is yes.
Introducing himself as David against Goliath, the nice little against the big bad guys, it works great for business.

Already we must stop using a term inappropriate to the situation. So, delete the term plot to analyze the situation itself.

If the question is: is homeopathy a victim of ostracism? The answer is yes.

We must see reality in the face! L'H, in the West, not in Asia for example, is the subject of a continuous campaign of disparagement with a speech, inaccurate, of: placebo, influence of the practitioner, of the credulity of the patients, etc ... (which happens to be the case of allopathy also unless the medics are interested only in their wallet obviously.) And where does this speech come from? The competing industry that, like any industry and not just medical, protects and protects its business. Is this a plot? and so :

If the question is: does homeopathy use conspiracy theory? the answer is NO because of this.

But we confuse, here again, the H itself which is a method of care just as there are automobiles with methods of displacement systems: thermal engine, electric, battery. These are just techniques with their particularities, not plots That's all!
There are specific interests, financial in large part with its market share (which is unrelated to health itself), then everyone practices his method successfully or not (150.000 cancer deaths in allopathy, including its failures do not erase its success, so it is a personal assessment of half-empty or half-full glass) as long as the dominant industry does not try to squeeze out all possible competition. It's business, not a plot.
Finally :

Introducing himself as David against Goliath, the nice little against the big bad guys, it works great for business.

The notion of nice against evil is only a view of the mind (already you would have to know a little (even much) better the story in question because in wars there are never any kind, neither bad guys, there are attackers (wanting to recover what they believe to be their exclusive good or wanting to appropriate that of the other) against the attackers who do not want to yield this one.
But back to our sheep (David being a shepherd in this story, not a warrior), it is actually business and only business and therefore the relationship between a strong industry 1.000 billion turnover against another weak only a few hundred million, which is not the same weight in the balance (the famous: equality of our republic.) especially in terms of marketing, with its famous conspiracy theory to belittle its industrial opponent by postponing the question on a subjectivity that catches the superstitious.

Ahmed wrote:

You write that "illiteracy has almost disappeared", certainly, but it is for the benefit of ignorance, since reading has, for a long time, been the royal route of the propaganda of the dominant. Today, it would no longer be as necessary on this level, since there is TV (which is manifested objectively by a very clear degradation of written expression).

I embraced, but it is not obvious, the means of knowing of an era compared to ours and therefore the parades used against this different knowledge only. The entant propaganda was accompanied by the secular arm which brought the strayed sheep back to the "gentle fold" of the dominant religion and the nobility which protected them with great taxes of all kinds.
As this method does not work much now, it is necessary to use other media means (in the service of the powerful again) to bring the evil-thinking to the soft fold of "science" (out of which point of salvation, either) or rather to "self-proclaimed scientists" in the service of money. Nothing new under the sun !

[sen-no-sen]

theoretical narrative that claims to be consistent and seeks to demonstrate the existence of a conspiracy understood as the fact that "a small group of powerful people secretly coordinates to plan and undertake an illegal and harmful action affecting the course of events" ( Peter Knight, University of Manchester)

While many authors have defined conspiracy, few of them seem to have explained their mechanism and the reasons for their development.
The conspiracy is part of an ultra-simplifying explanation of the world and corresponds neither more nor less than a form of popular paranoia, consequence of the crisis of subjectivation that we are going through (says Titanic syndrome).
For some time now (2008) we have begun a phase of systemic crisis, a consequence of the accumulation of internal contradictions in Exponential economism.
Exponential Economism is based on the continual and constantly renewed production of goods and abstract values. For such a system there is no turning back possible without the risk of widespread collapse.
Without the physical laws being hard, all systems invariably end up, sooner or later on its limits.
When its limits are reached all the means are taken by the economic agents (1) to maintain the cost that it costs the growth and masked by the means of an intense propaganda the systemic contradictions (2).
Except it is within the framework of this propaganda that initiates the conspiracy. By evading the overview it may seem to appear effectively that a group of individuals would be in command to generate a set of disasters in view of the only profit. small groups of humans.And it is unfortunately a blunder, because it is confusing the consequences of with the causes!

From the cognitive point the conspiracy corresponds to a excess of apparent rationality(like paranoia)
For the conspirator it makes sense to think that the events are caused by humans and emanates from a centralized will.
This is typically the same issue that arises in the debate between creationists and evolutionists!
In fact, conspiracists are simply not able to understand the deep articulations within the super-organism anthropotechnical, let alone to grasp that it is the intelligence emanating from all the interactions within the system that is driving the ills of our society.This is indeed very difficult to understand and that can seem quasi-paranormal ...but which is really rational.


(1) The economic agents are the individuals who derive the most profits from the dominant model, for obvious economic reasons but also narcissistic, political etc ...
(2) For example: the intense propaganda for the fight against global warming in order to sell the industrial transition. The defense of local consumption followed by intense negotiations aimed at generalizing free trade!
Anti-racism highlighting people of color (as in the movie Thor or the guard Asgard is African! ) in order to hide the important difficulties that prevail within immigrant populations.
We can also note the initiatives aimed at highlighting people with disabilities through advertisements that show good feelings, even though many disabled adults live in dismal conditions ... Examples of this unfortunately unfortunately abound and promote alienation at the same time. within human populations and the appearance of cognitive pathology.

[Janic]

You make an interesting analysis that I would not comment, apart from these few points

The conspiracy is part of an ultra-simplifying explanation of the world and corresponds neither more nor less than a form of popular paranoiaas a consequence of the crisis of subjectivation that we are going through.

I think we must distinguish on one side this supposedly popular paranoia and medical professionals, allopathic as homeopathic who are confronted with realities and whose implementation of the chosen therapy must be the sole and unique criterion of value. Beyond that, there is indeed a paranoia, but it is almost exclusively among non-professionals and non-specialized professionals.
The other aspect that I constantly emphasize is the incompetence of this non-specialized professional environment that is more superstitious than scientific. No one in the surgical profession doubts the skills of a surgeon, for example, but these professionals allow themselves (hopefully not all) to question the practice and professional experience of colleagues who have opted for other therapies than those officially taught in their faculties. It's paranoia! and I pass on the aficionados who do not know anything about it for having neither studied nor experienced the subject.

This is typically the same issue that arises in the debate between creationists and evolutionists!

I slip on this, the long debate on this subject shows that it is not a problem, but only different opinions.

[Janic]

while we are there:

an interview with gerard Lépine former surgeon oncologist on cancers, including breast, prostate and cervical cancer.
Conspiracy theory? that's the question!