Real economy versus virtual economy? Debate.

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by Ahmed » 20/12/11, 21:48

Here is a marvelous illustration which makes it possible to understand the eminently virtual character which is hidden inside the so-called real economy:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post219580.html#219580
The "scam" character that vigorously denounces Dedeleco is only apparent (this remains true for the buyer, however, but this is not important), because this commodity achieves its true purpose which is not to provide a particular service to its user, but to make a sufficient profit.

We can see here that the “advantages” for the user are slim: rapid heating and the appeal of a technique which is intended to be particularly elaborate under the high-sounding and obscure name of “ionic”. However, this is necessary, because for profit to occur, it is essential that the sale take place and for this, a use value, whether real or fictitious, must appear.

The difference from ordinary electrical resistance is therefore essentially to allow higher exchange value, which is the purpose of any commodity.
This purpose is most often hidden behind the use value and, if one does not realize it, one condemns oneself to understand nothing about the current economy.
Finally, by making this distinction, it is possible to explain planned obsolescence, constant innovation, the imperious nature of growth and why the real economy is not as real as that.

This also explains the growing impoverishment of any commodity which, under a "rich" exterior, concentrates on the surface what alone favors the act of exchange.
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by dedeleco » 21/12/11, 00:31

Pretty deep analysis by Ahmed on a huge case of pure scam of the ignorant or believers, with false terms selling hundreds of times more expensive than what is necessary as an electric heater.
Furthermore legally there is no lie since the yield remains 98%, but omission that we can have the same for more than 100 times cheaper !!!
But qualify their machine as
first low-consumption electric boilers
is a lie, because consumption to the nearest% is identical to a vulgar heating resistance and therefore with nothing lower in consumption !!!

It is certain that as ahmed explains well, the whole real economy has this characteristic of increasing profit, but by selling material at a price 25% to 50%, even 100% higher than its cost price (profit ), but not generally 10000%, as between this ionic device and a heating resistor !!!

Finally, they could have multiplied the price by 100million and more, with a synchrotron, the first electric boiler rotating the electrons at the speed of light !!!
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by Ahmed » 21/12/11, 19:19

Thank you for your appreciation, Dede!

The phrase "the whole real economy has this characteristic of increasing profit" is not exactly what I am saying.

For me, it is clear that any current economy, whether "real" or "fictitious" seeks to increase its profit, but that this ultimately leads to a decrease in this same profit, which implies a new effort , etc ...

However, the other consequence of this phenomenon is a reduction in the redistributed wage bill *, while the mass of goods continues to grow: a scissor effect occurs which can only be resolved (temporarily) by the use of credit whether public or private.
This is how, for example, one can interpret the government premium for the purchase of automobiles; the market is unlocked as long as the premium carries out its function, it is a kind of doping which cannot be an illusion for very long.

You write, ironically:
Finally, they could have multiplied the price by 100 million and more, with a synchrotron, the first electric boiler rotating the electrons at the speed of light !!!

Certainly, but there is no possibility of carrying out the monetary exchange at this price!

* At the same time as wages are moving towards the tertiary sector, which further weakens the balance by increasing "incidentals".
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