LLW9

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and CAPITAL sinks into error.
Yesterday:

Linvestors flock to finance the machine that must revolutionize electricity production

02 / 10 / 15 Capital.fr

"A revolutionary machine could produce clean electricity through magnets," announced Capital.fr in an article published last September. The designer of this device, the start-up LMW10 Luc Besançon, and its partner, the Institute IIDSRSI (International Institute for support for innovative scientific research), based in Sophia-Antipolis, wanted to raise 9 euros to complete the realization a prototype of sufficient power to power a pavilion housing a household of four people. On the date of the 250.000 October, pledges to participate in this financing amount to 1 euros. In agreement with potential investors, LMW460.000 may defer some of the funds to other ongoing research on renewable energy.

Capital.fr's article also allowed Luc Besançon to meet a business angel who decided to take a stake in LMW9 while providing his skills. His start-up has also established contacts with a dozen companies interested in its technology. These companies do not yet wish to reveal their identity, but among these are a large aeronautical company, two specialists (one Norwegian and the other emirati) of energy and the environment, and three high-tech companies. who work in the propulsion of clean vehicles.

This project has generated a lot of skepticism among our readersbut it has also excited the curiosity of highly reputed industrial actors. Capital.fr will not fail to keep its readers informed of the evolution of this revolutionary and controversial technology.

Etienne Ginger

http://www.capital.fr/bourse/actualites ... te-1074093

hihihi in the comments:

Michel Paul Correa · General Manager at IIDSRSI Institute
Small update: Hello, as Director of the IDSRSI Institute and partner of the LLW9 program, I must make some comments on some comments on this article. It is completely unacceptable to see people questioning the professional integrity of Mr. Ginger author of the 2 articles on this topic. Mr. Ginger is not a beginner freelancer but a journalist with a long career behind him. For this purpose he has been able to cover a large number of controversial or counter-current topics.

from Rémi Babian:
Mr. Ginger,
Once, it can be a mistake, but it is 2 once this prestigious newspaper is the relay of a scam. No information check. Internet users did some checks, and each time found that the statements of the manager of LLW9 was false or fundamentally distorted.
As for the concept, anyone of scientific training knows that a magnet motor can not work, because it would be to confuse force and energy or it would violate the first principle of thermodynamics. Go on forums who talk about LLW9 ... See more

of Guy Varache · HEC Paris
Hello,
for ten years there have been many identical projects in the world: the "Minoto engine" in Japan, "Pendev" in Russia (I quote these names from memory) etc ...
and the Internet is filled with fixed magnets, all of which are miraculous.
Money has already been raised on these projects which have all disappeared from circulation with even in some cases lawsuits for fraud. There is another

[ARMAND]

Are they on purpose or what? I am appalled to see the emptiness of the critics THIS IS NOT A MOTOR, it is a "range extender at COP <1, the rest is buzz to talk about the product....

It's good to keep a critical mind, but you have to criticize wisely with arguments, constantly coming back to the impossibilities of the "magnetic" motor that everyone knows is playing into the hands of this "institute" (society simplified action) which also defends an anti-gravity device
it is incidentally answer next to the plate ... This is a RANGE EXTENDER, NOT AN ENGINE

It is an EXTENSION OF AUTONOMY NOT A MOTOR .... so critical there must be, criticize at least the good product, it will be more constructive !!!!

If it creates energy is that it is connected to a conventional generator, after being launched by a motor of any type ...

[ARMAND]

It goes without saying that I replied in my post to the reader of the magazine, as regards the forum, I think everyone understands that THIS IS NOT A MAGNETIC MOTOR

[Obamot]

At this point it becomes serious:
http://www.votreenergiepourlafrance.fr/ ... it-769803/

OMG, is this a government site?
Before the rabbids go to Bercy!
To arms, citizens...!

And besides they do not read the logs, the LLW9 already existed and not in 3D modeling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN0YDFaO-zs

(Ooooops, at the end of the slip, he does not really believe himself ... Pathetic!)

The advantage of the 3D is that you can not connect to prove that it does not work, it's not con ...!
(Whether it works or not later ...)

[ARMAND]

"At this stage it becomes serious", indeed, especially since it is our money! Reminds me of the "Sniffer planes" affair ...

[blabla4444]

Are they on purpose or what? I am appalled to see the emptiness of the critics THIS IS NOT A MOTOR, it is a "range extender at COP <1, the rest is buzz to talk about the product....

Exactly ARMAND, all the ambiguity is there. Look at the heading of Capital's previous article that made the buzz, it was clearly said that the thing was spinning and creating electricity from the magnets. Article that Mr.Correa relayed without any scruple on his page FB. Look at the presentation that is made on the site Happy-Capital, it is clearly said that it will create energy from magnetism.

So if the speakers talked about the engine initially, it was not wrong, because everything is done in the article, in 3D videos and especially in the presentation to investors to make believe an engine. And thankfully they did that because it forced Mr.Correa to intervene and expose all the confusion of his speech.

Besides, I talked with him on the FB page of the institute and told him about Range-Extender, he shouted at me saying that I had understood nothing and that the project of Range-Extender was a second phase for the vehicles and that it was not for that that it asked for funds, but on an application for the habitat. When I pointed out to him that he was talking about range-extender on the same site in response to a potential investor, he cleared the conversation, of course.

As noted by another stakeholder forum, at the beginning he had no complex in saying that the bouzin turned without external input only thanks to the "force of the magnets" so he fully assumed the nature of "motor". I even remember that at one point he remarked "engine, generator, converter, whatever the designation"!

As it was a little big and he had to realize that there, the swindle was too much characterized, since he is in full retreadment, in full swing. He began by saying that the mvt was not perpetual because it was necessary to change the magnets after several years ..... like magnets that contain even more energy than plutonium. Then now he says that you have to restart the machine regularly with an electric motor. And there it becomes anything, because without external input there will necessarily be less energy at the exit than it was initially injected and downright less much seen all the losses with all that metal turning in a fort magnetic field (eddy currents), so even as a range-extender, it is not credible.
For the system to be useful, it must capture energy somewhere other than on the initial "impulses" ... And there, it is the tragedy, he does not know what to answer. because he knows very well that on this question, the general public, journalists, investors etc ... will think that it is the magnets which bring this additional energy (which would therefore be primary energy) In addition if we consider a system that produces more electricity at the output than injected at the input, it would be enough simply to take an extension cord and connect the input to the output, and there we would have a perpetual motion!
As a result M.Corréa does everything to avoid answering. He uses the good old techniques of the politicards, that is to say, to change the subject, attacks ad'hominem, to make these stupid quotations, to flee in generalities and pathetic parallels with Pasteur or Einstein and to lament on those who spend their time to criticize while people are moving for the future of the planet ... it's quite funny, the question has been asked 200 times, and each time never answer.

All this has only one goal in my opinion, keep the public at all costs in the illusion of the magnetic engine to defraud a max of investors.

[ARMAND]

@ Blabla4444: No problem, I am the product from 2014, on several forum. When I speak of the emptiness of the critics I aim essentially the two post of the magazine Capital (which one of the speakers is supposed to leave a prestigious Grande Ecole) cited above.
On the other hand, it's still at least six months since this product has been cataloged by its promoters as an "autonomy extender", in my opinion it's not really constructive to continue to respond to it with arguments related to the field of "magnetic motor" ...
The fact that the "Institute" (lol) uses limited verbiage in my opinion is due to the profile of the one who represents this simplified action company called "Institute" (and relol) absolutely devoid of scientific skills.
But as he explains in another forum (machining) the important thing for him is to make the buzz and talk about the product ...

The "Institute" (mdr ) also promotes an anti-gravity device ...

[blabla4444]

The thing is, at the mere reading of the article someone who does not know the subject can only believe in a magnetic motor, and for me, it is voluntary. So it's logical to remember that this can not work. It is a little after that the gentleman of the institute posted his focus. So as noted by a speaker, he came into conflict with the article! There would have been no intervention before, he would not have said anything and let believe this legend that suits him to bring back money. At least there comes out a little wood and someone a bit supposed to see that there is a wolf ...

[blabla4444]

On the other hand, it's still at least six months that this product has been cataloged by its promoters as "autonomy extender"

Oh no, that's where I was when the gentleman from the institute yelled at me that I understood nothing for nothing, etc ... that the extension of autonomy, it was another project that was going to arrive later and that concerned the electric cars. That the project that was in search of financing was not that one, but that for the habitat. Indeed we do not see the problem of charging batteries for housing.

Well actually, he gets lost himself in his explanations and contradicts himself all the time, but if you point out him, you're just a big cat and you take a picture with a tartar quote in your teeth: -D

[ARMAND]

Blabla444: Seen like that, actually it's confusing , on the other hand, you shouldn't take your head with this gizmo. For fun, you have to go see the two files devoted to that on "usinage.com", lol, we immediately measure the scope of the "Institute" ..., in passing a little search on a Registry site trade and a few clicks and you immediately take on the dimension of the character.

In summary of the buzz for grisbi