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by jonule » 10/08/07, 15:09

elephant wrote:we love you but we do not follow you in your developments.


who that "we"? : Cheesy:

the replica of Dave Lawton, if you do not know elephant is that you will not remember!
which is difficult I recognize it with all the links of this forum, "except for those who follow" ... in this case I remember it very well, I even quote it on my page: http://www.nrjrealiste.fr/H2O/h2o.html
here exactly:
http://www.nrjrealiste.fr/H2O/Electrolyse%20Alternateur%20DAVE%20MEYER.doc

in short GENH2, already begins by reproducing his experience!

the stainless steel tubes are quite easy to find for a cheap at a machine!
for the alternator, see AUTOMOBILE BREAK.

so good luck and above all ... WE ARE AWESOME!

if it works for you, I'll start too ;-)
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by elephant » 10/08/07, 17:06

indeed, I knew him, but that did not make a difference.

this system had not caught my attention, and no production figures had been published.
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by GENH2 » 11/08/07, 20:28

Hi everybody,

I am still uncertain about the purchase and modification to be made on the alternator for the "meyer shell"! any info disappointed?

Some went to see the videos that g put in link above? What do you think ?

I would like to know that some specialists of this forum tell me if changes are to be made on the electronic card, the one being already assembled.

Regarding the stainless steel tubes, at an ironworker I will never have the thickness that I wish to have ... you all know very well it is impossible to have tubes with a thickness of 1mm see 1.2mm! especially on a length of 50 cm no fuss ...
I have them made to measure in a machine workshop 3D (less thickness = + reason = - necessary voltage = - intensitré etc etc etc ... or so I did not understand the fundamentals for break the mollecule!)

Otherwise I would like to know if you think ... just an idea like that ....
Under pressure, at 5 Bars for example ... the hydrogen being 12 times + lighter than the surrounding air ... if under pressure it will not go all alone to clear the walls to go up ... canceling almost the effect Stack of which you speak?
Otherwise another track, just as stupid ... in the discovery channel video ... or even on the buggy ... an engine or an alternator ... does it not produce a certain substantial vibration sufficient "to shake "the mollecules in the tank to make them go up SIMPLY! because they are each time on the same set (the established for one, metal tubing for the other)

here is ! I always wait for your information for the connection of my tubes 316 L or 304 S, their number and their dimensions knowing that I can accommodate lengths of 50 60 CM long 3 4 cm diam ext ext;) I'm going soon put the design video of my tank.

sometimes you do not have to look for lunch at 14H!


good luck to all !
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by elephant » 11/08/07, 22:47

Let's summarize:

if your tubes are long, your capacity will be greater, so the HF frequency may be lower with equal reactance.

on the other hand, the bubbles will have more difficulty to go up.

the longer your tubes are, the better your electrolysis surface, the less you have to put KOH when you try with it.

as long as we have not done the test, I will pretend that the BF oscillation induces a mechanical vibration (if high voltage electrolysis)

the closer your tubes are, the lower the capacity will be, but the more we will have trouble with the capillarity. 1 mm looks good to me.

the scheme holds water, but there is only one way not to blow everything up in the first millisecond: from distilled water and make measurements, further measurements.

you speak of high pressures: negative: you are in relation with a motor which generates a depression: if your system is waterproof, the pressure which reigns above the electrolyseur mounted on a car is of the order of 0,3 with 0,8 bars . It is good that it helps the gases to be extracted.

I think that we must act with method. If you have the means, realize the thing. I think you're in the Paris region, I think we could easily get you from the world for the test campaign: Maloche does not live far and is an engineer.
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by GENH2 » 12/08/07, 02:51

I am not in the Paris region, nor even in France.

If not for the magnetron ... if we want to connect it to the cells ... what means to use in your opinion? put at the fact of having to isolate it the same as a microwave to the cells ...? must the signal be divided into as many cells?
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by GENH2 » 13/08/07, 01:42

Hello everyone,

Another stupid idea ...

A stainless steel engine block, and a base pressure of 0.5, 0.8 ... let's go crazy at 2 Bars or 5 Bars Max in a sealed circuit, purely and simply replacing gasoline and other pseudo "bio" fuel ... it would give what? ... by putting aside the Pantone

So connecting the alternator that feeds the cell prod to the accelerator pedal? ...

Just like that to know

If anyone knows precisely and reliably the explosive power of hydrogen at 1 Bar compared to that of the most recent discoveries in oil and bio fuel? ... I am VERY interested (probably not the only one here; ))

see you soon
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by GENH2 » 14/08/07, 17:22

I would have said a big Bétise la?
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by GENH2 » 16/08/07, 03:44

Nobody has ever assembled the scheme of Lawton apart from him even in spite of his own video which turns on youtube? it seems tantalizing ...: /

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by tophe71 » 28/08/07, 14:47

hi GENH2,

You did not have much to look for when you wanted elements on replicas of Dave

I reproduced his cell and did tests not with the alternator but with a pulsating electronic circuit.

I know the subject of Dave Lawton well since it was me who translated it and gave his original document to Quant'homme.

What we can say is that when Dave describes the operation of his sytem with alternator it takes into account only the current absorbed by the rotor (inductor) of its alternator and not the power absorbed by the electric motor that the entrainne.
In this context it is easy to draw a favorable return.

I will not tell you everything about the tests I have done, just look at the post that deals with the topic on 2 forums where we work, I can't follow all forums and I am not working alone on this subject.

http://essenceciel.tk.free.fr/phpBB2/index.php

http://generation-hydrogene.forumpro.fr for this one it is necessary to present oneself in order to obtain the access.

What we can say in conclusion is that, although we have been working for many years on the subject, we have not been able to obtain superunitary returns either by trying to replicate the patents of Stan, Dave or C.Eccles with pulsed HT!

This does not mean that it is unfeasible, it is simply more complex than we thought and we are not researchers but experimenters who have trouble finding time and money to do this.

Happy reading on these two forums which represent a concentrate of all that is done on the subject in France.

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by jcf » 03/02/08, 10:30

Hello everybody
Unfortunately, I have very little time to dig into these topics that interest me a lot. I just wanted to ask you: do you have any idea of ​​the process used by Gus Greaux in his minivan?
http://www.leblogauto.com/2008/01/un-mi ... more-13323
Thank you and +
Ps: I hope that I chose a not too shifted tread for my question => not to type, not to type!
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