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Re: Nuclear continues in the world




by izentrop » 14/08/22, 12:41

We missed it: the Koreans who are building a power plant in the United Arab Emirates https://atalayar.com/fr/content/les-emi ... a-derniere
Once fully operational, the four units will supply 25% of the country's electricity consumption and reduce up to 22,4 million tonnes of carbon emissions per year, equivalent to the emissions of 4,8 million cars every year.

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by Christophe » 14/08/22, 12:44

The solar panels on the carports in the parking lot are missing!! : Mrgreen:
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by sicetaitsimple » 14/08/22, 13:20

izentrop wrote:We missed it: the Koreans who are building a power plant in the United Arab Emirates


It doesn't matter, but "we" hadn't missed that.

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by sicetaitsimple » 14/08/22, 13:23

Janic wrote:simpleton
3. Really good: I don't know, but maybe our children, grandchildren and the suite will one day be happy to have Thorium power plants on the day when fossils would just become unaffordable.
it's very unlikely or else you're guessing.
With your pimply teenager delusions, we should already have explored the multi-universes and exploited lots of planets until we destroyed them like ours. Fortunately, it doesn't work like that and humanity will have already disappeared before


You are right, "Yakafairecommeyacentans".
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by Remundo » 14/08/22, 13:46

izentrop wrote:We missed it: the Koreans who are building a power plant in the United Arab Emirates

in fact it goes back a long time, the French wallowed with the EPR, under the Lauvergeon-Sarkozy era, afterwards, the traitor Macron dismantled the sector by giving Alstom turbines to the Americans, while the Sauds wanted ( like others!) dealing with ONE country controlling the ENTIRE nuclear sector (reactor, fuel, turbine, alternator).

As a result, it was Asian neo-powers like the Koreans who won the markets.

Currently the Zouaves of EDF and ORANO (successors of Areva) spend their lives wading through crappy sites and paying debts bailed out by the State. Their company enters into a vicious circle, in particular on the recruitment of high-level engineers, where not many people want to apply given the mess it is...

But it's not all the executives' fault, the bullshit also comes from the politicians' side and all this is part of the accelerated decadence of France on all fronts.
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by Christophe » 14/08/22, 14:01

EDF has only to resell the tourist heritage of its CE to boomers full of money! : Lol: : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:
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by sicetaitsimple » 14/08/22, 14:14

Remundo wrote:in fact it goes back a long time, the French wallowed with the EPR, under the Lauvergeon-Sarkozy era, afterwards, the traitor Macron dismantled the sector by giving Alstom turbines to the Americans, while the Sauds wanted ( like others!) dealing with ONE country controlling the ENTIRE nuclear sector (reactor, fuel, turbine, alternator).

As a result, it was Asian neo-powers like the Koreans who won the markets.


A few slight shortcuts with the story?
Because the contract with the Koreans was signed in December 2009, when we still knew nothing of the future setbacks of the EPR (the first concrete having been poured two years before, December 2007) and Macron was "only "Inspector of Finance.
The acquisition of Alstom Power by GE having taken place at the end of 2014.
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by Remundo » 14/08/22, 14:16

sicetaitsimple wrote:What is the interest of breeding in a reactor which "naturally" consumes 100% of the injected nuclear material, which is also non-fissile, in this case Thorium 232 (via U233)?

I have already answered, but I will renew an explanation of the simplest for the readers of the forum.

Breeding consists of generating as many, if not more, fissile nuclei than those which fission in a reactor.

It's a bit like if you were driving in a petrol car and that a magic trick produces as much fuel, or even more than that which you consume while driving...

Impossible for fuel, but in the nuclear world, it is doable! For this, nature has the generosity to provide about 3 neutrons per fission (which only uses one!).

We can therefore theoretically generate for 1 fission:
* 1 other fission neutron that maintains reactor power
* 2 other neutrons which can irradiate fertile atoms to become fissile atoms. (in this case each fission of U233 could produce 2 others from Th232!)

In practice there are neutrons that are lost for different reasons, but basically we arrive at:
* 1 neutron which will split another atom (maintaining the power of the reactor
* 1 neutron which will transform a Th232 into U233 (which means that the reactor will keep an almost constant quantity of U233 despite the supply of power
* one last neutron that gets lost in battle

I specify that I am not making the apology of overgeneration.

Breeding is a fascinating scientific subject, intellectually appealing, but ultimately, it's a process that splits thousands of tons of atoms that naturally could not, so it brings colossal amounts of radioactive waste... and certainly a lot of electricity...
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Re: Nuclear continues in the world




by Remundo » 14/08/22, 14:18

sicetaitsimple wrote:
Remundo wrote:in fact it goes back a long time, the French wallowed with the EPR, under the Lauvergeon-Sarkozy era, afterwards, the traitor Macron dismantled the sector by giving Alstom turbines to the Americans, while the Sauds wanted ( like others!) dealing with ONE country controlling the ENTIRE nuclear sector (reactor, fuel, turbine, alternator).

As a result, it was Asian neo-powers like the Koreans who won the markets.


A few slight shortcuts with the story?

I simplified, quibbling over details does not change the common thread.

If not, do you want me to pull out the Uramin file?

You remind us how many reactors are shut down at the dawn of a winter of all dangers?

that's it, do you understand thorium breeding now?
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by sicetaitsimple » 14/08/22, 14:24

Remundo wrote:
sicetaitsimple wrote:
Remundo wrote:in fact it goes back a long time, the French wallowed with the EPR, under the Lauvergeon-Sarkozy era, afterwards, the traitor Macron dismantled the sector by giving Alstom turbines to the Americans, while the Sauds wanted ( like others!) dealing with ONE country controlling the ENTIRE nuclear sector (reactor, fuel, turbine, alternator).

As a result, it was Asian neo-powers like the Koreans who won the markets.


A few slight shortcuts with the story?

I simplified, quibbling over details does not change the common thread.


It's a good one there! You didn't simplify, you changed the chronology of events!
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