1000 billion for the Climate, Jean Jouzel online November 23 at 20:30 p.m.

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by ENERC » 21/11/20, 14:14

ABC2019 wrote:
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ABC2019 wrote:not understood, what 5000 billion? your source speaks of 492 billion.

but I am not saying that 1000 billion is too much, on the contrary I am surprised that it is enough, 150 € per person.

It is per year of course

even per year, that's not a lot. 150 € per year to do without fossils, do you seriously believe in it?

Clearly a straw compared to what we give each year for fossils:
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6 000 000 000 000 $ per year and it increases every year.

We can clearly see on the graph the MONSTROUS share of the tax advantages on fossil fuels. (also IMF data)
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by ABC2019 » 21/11/20, 16:00

ENERC wrote:
6 000 000 000 000 $ per year and it increases every year.

We can clearly see on the graph the MONSTROUS share of the tax advantages on fossil fuels. (also IMF data)

yes, that's what I'm saying, I'm surprised that only a small part of the tax advantages given to fossil fuels is needed to achieve the energy transition.
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by Eric DUPONT » 21/11/20, 17:31

it suffices to develop an efficient energy storage system for renewable energies to take precedence over nuclear and fossils. when you see my capital for that: 50000 euros ...
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by ABC2019 » 21/11/20, 17:33

ENERC wrote:Clearly a straw compared to what we give each year for fossils:
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otherwise it is a detail but I do not see where it is indicated that it is for the fossils.
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by ABC2019 » 21/11/20, 17:35

Eric Dupont wrote:it suffices to develop an efficient energy storage system for renewable energies to take precedence over nuclear and fossils. when you see my capital for that: 50000 euros ...

you mean that for 150 € per year I can afford an efficient storage system that allows me to do without fossil energy? : Shock:

OK, I buy, where should I order this?
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by Exnihiloest » 21/11/20, 17:36

ENERC wrote:...
It is per year of course


The bigger, the better. It would be € 1 symbolic that many would still believe in it.

And where is the list and schedule of planned actions, and their cost?
No need, just take their word for it. We are not going to hold them to account, it is for a good cause. : Lol:
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by yves35 » 21/11/20, 19:16

Good evening,

ABC2019 wrote:
cellomap wrote:Hello,
I am sharing this information for your convenience if it may be of interest to any of you. The climatologist and glaciologist Jean Jouzel will hold an online conference on Monday 23.11 at 20:30 p.m., obviously on the financing of the ecological transition. You can have more information and register by clicking on the link opposite http://www.sans-transition-magazine.info/voyage-en-transition-jean-jouzel

can we make the ecological transition for 150 € per person? cool. Why are we told that we will have to make efforts and accept sacrifices then?


I can't find 150E / French ...
there are 67 inhabitants in France
1000 / 000 = 000 euros (baby included and spoiled : Cheesy: )
if we consider the active population now:
1000 / 000 = 000 euros per contributor

I was wrong ???

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by ABC2019 » 21/11/20, 20:19

yves35 wrote:Good evening,

ABC2019 wrote:
cellomap wrote:Hello,
I am sharing this information for your convenience if it may be of interest to any of you. The climatologist and glaciologist Jean Jouzel will hold an online conference on Monday 23.11 at 20:30 p.m., obviously on the financing of the ecological transition. You can have more information and register by clicking on the link opposite http://www.sans-transition-magazine.info/voyage-en-transition-jean-jouzel

can we make the ecological transition for 150 € per person? cool. Why are we told that we will have to make efforts and accept sacrifices then?


I can't find 150E / French ...
there are 67 inhabitants in France
1000 / 000 = 000 euros (baby included and spoiled : Cheesy: )
if we consider the active population now:
1000 / 000 = 000 euros per contributor

I was wrong ???

yves


uh I understood that 1000 billion was for the whole world !!

the annual GDP of France is around 2 billion, for once, 700 billion for France, that's a lot there !!!
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by Christophe » 21/11/20, 20:26

Just erase the public debt : Mrgreen:
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by sen-no-sen » 21/11/20, 20:42

So we should spend more money * to save the climate? Strange reasoning ... : roll:


* Money = energy = entropy
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