You are not serious those who are for biofuel ?!

crude vegetable oil, diester, bio-ethanol or other biofuels, or fuel of vegetable origin ...
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by Cuicui » 03/07/08, 11:26

Christophe wrote:Oh yeah? And where is hydrogen everywhere? Don't answer me in the water please : Cheesy:

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In addition, it is a dangerous fuel ...
With regard to compressed air, I wonder what the tank would do in the event of an accident.
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by jonule » 03/07/08, 13:15

that's for sure it's not a pressureless oil tank that could explode! : Lol:

for hydrogen I thought of production on demand, without storage, by heat recovery (pantone yes in H2O, +1 ;-) and improved electrolysis of course! -)

for the tanks, those of recent LPG are in kevlar and no longer risk the explosion, I believe that they are again authorized in parking?


if not recently Christophe posted an article online on vehicles running on Biogas, which can be produced from organic waste, which we do not lack, with all the shit we are :D


go, another 5 years of oil at 5 € per liter and independent manufacturers (huh?) will get started!
once the patent is released of course ...
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by Christophe » 03/07/08, 13:29

jonule wrote:if not recently Christophe posted an article online on vehicles running on Biogas, which can be produced from organic waste, which we do not lack, with all the shit we are :D


: Shock: shit, don't I remember? Where is it?

If you talk about this it does not concern vehicles: https://www.econologie.com/forums/biogaz-a-p ... t5670.html

But the idea of ​​making biogas at either a road destination is interesting (it is the taxman who may not really like) :)
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by the middle » 03/07/08, 13:33

But the idea of ​​making biogas at either a road destination is interesting (it is the taxman who may not really like)

I'm for taxation ... we need it. No?
On the other hand I am against the oil companies which earn too much too much ....
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by Christophe » 03/07/08, 13:35

If the person produces what he consumes and it remains in a "closed" circuit, no I do not see the point of taxing this fuel: there is no depletion of the resource and the ecological balance is almost zero.
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by the middle » 03/07/08, 13:45

Christophe wrote:If the person produces what he consumes and it remains in a "closed" circuit, no I do not see the point of taxing this fuel: there is no depletion of the resource and the ecological balance is almost zero.

Right, Christophe,
But I'm talking about the socialist side of life ... you have to find a little money to pay the unemployed, the sick, etc ...
(I'm talking about the real unemployed and the real sick of course : Cheesy: )
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by jonule » 03/07/08, 14:42

money for that there is already but it is badly distributed that's all!

nothing easier to handle the budget lines
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by Christophe » 03/07/08, 15:11

lejustemilieu wrote:Right, Christophe,
But I'm talking about the socialist side of life ... you have to find a little money to pay the unemployed, the sick, etc ...
(I'm talking about the real unemployed and the real sick of course : Cheesy: )


TIPP / TIC for FRANCE represents around 15% of VAT receipts ...

In other words, it would be enough to increase the VAT by 15% to compensate for ALL the losses of the oil excise duties ...

Cale would mean that the VAT should be reduced from 19.6 to 22.54% ...on the other hand the tankers would lose everything ... but fuel is not the only resource of petroleum: https://www.econologie.com/forums/les-utilis ... t5683.html
Hold LeJuste you will surely have info on this subject!
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by minguinhirigue » 03/07/08, 16:56

The discourse on taxes is amusing when we know that they are largely used to settle a debt due to the abandonment of the power to mint money by the state, for the benefit of international banks, for an alleged regulation ...

I am for the production of agro-fuel and no one talks to me about taxes on this subject!

Social, yes, let's be it by ourselves rather than entrusting this role to the enormous machine that constitutes the state. It's annoying and hard to be in solidarity between individuals without a third person (Papa Sarko?) Regulating the "sharing", but this third person, as fair as it is, it can also fail (corruption of state bodies?) .

The endless redistribution system is today worthy of a Shadock machine! And what comes out allows us to finance credit highways, yawned for the benefit of private concessionaires, who have been making money on our backs for thirty years and more.

Yes to bio-fuels, yes to recycling fuels, no to taxation on these products.
A change of energy system arrives with the barrel at $ 200 or $ 300 is perhaps the opportunity to not perpetuate a system of legal serfdom, and to find a parade to taxetous.

Today what we eat and what we drink is so taxed that I really wonder how it is that we have not yet taxed what we breathe!
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by Christophe » 03/07/08, 16:59

Toutafé minguinhirigue, the problem is that the State does not forget the taxes on biofuels.

This is the reason for the start of the bankruptcy and difficulty of the German factories:

https://www.econologie.com/forums/difficulte ... t5628.html
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