Driving an electric car every day

[Obamot]

In any case, the shift is beginning and electric is the lowest carbon solution, the most economical, provided that batteries and energy follow...

Stop ranting, it's been more than ten years since tracks were mentioned on this forum, for renewable electricity production... And especially since production had to be developed first before encouraging consumption... You are just a common crook who has always supported crooks, with victims captive customers.

[phil59]

Do not forget the sites of Douvrin and Dunkirk, among others...

[phil59]

You're just a common crook who has always supported crooks, with captive customers as victims.

This kind of remark should no longer exist, or be said in a more courteous way, because it will undoubtedly generate other remarks all that....

[izentrop]

In any case, the shift is beginning and electric is the lowest carbon solution, the most economical, provided that batteries and energy follow...

Stop ranting, it's been more than ten years since tracks were mentioned on this forum, for renewable electricity production... And above all that it was first necessary to develop production before encouraging consumption..

Don't make me say what I didn't say.

On the other hand, what is clear: The energy transition will remain an illusion in a world with finite resources. https://www.revue-acropolis.fr/la-trans ... un-leurre/

You're just a common crook who has always supported crooks, with captive customers as victims.

This kind of remark should no longer exist, or be said in a more courteous way, because it will undoubtedly generate other remarks all that....

Thanks but don't worry it doesn't even bother me.

And then it's the darling of unstoppable mods ... 15 pages and still there bistro / what is it-how-to-obamot-t12250.html

[phil59]

Thanks but don't worry it doesn't even bother me.

And then it's the darling of unstoppable mods ... 15 pages and still there bistro / what is it-how-to-obamot-t12250.html

Don't throw oil on the fire either, stay zen too.

We can say everything calmly, without yelling at each other.

[Janic]

11/02/23, 03:24

Don't throw oil on the fire either, stay zen too.
We can say everything calmly, without yelling at each other.

A great dreamer, phil 59!
The only debates where people don't argue is when they agree among themselves, and again!

[Remundo]

How much does it cost us per 100km?

a medium-sized car consumes between 15 and 20 kWh/100 km.

In winter rather 20.

at 0,8 €/kWh, that's 16 €/100 km...

Even on a lower assumption, 15 kWh/100 km x €0,6/kWh = €9

It's as expensive as Diesel! (5L x 1,9€/L)

And it's 80% nuke

You're kidding!

[Forhorse]

0.8€/kWh?
Even in red tempo days it's still not as expensive (0.67€/kwh)
And conversely, in off-peak hours on blue days it's €0.097/kWh or (at 20kWh/100km) €1.94 per 100km... do you do 100km with 1l of diesel?

[Remundo]

In any case, the turn is about to begin

it is discussed. Fairly few EVs in the car park, hardly any in the trucks

and electric is the lowest carbon solution,

it all depends on electricity. In France it is the most nuclear solution, in the major world countries, the most carbon-intensive.

the most economical,

very debatable.
1) Inflation on electricity (however lightly taxed) brings the cost close to liquid fuels (surtaxed).
2) the purchase of an EV is very expensive, and it may get worse because an EV is much more "mining" than a VT

provided that the batteries and energy follow ...

precisely it will not follow so well as that.

Rather than getting bogged down in everything VE, we need to develop
1) a renewable electricity network
2) both the EV, the hybrid and the VT depending on the uses,
3) with neo-fuels with a low carbon footprint.

[Remundo]

0.8€/kWh?
Even in red tempo days it's still not as expensive (0.67€/kwh)
And conversely, in off-peak hours on blue days it's €0.097/kWh or (at 20kWh/100km) €1.94 per 100km... do you do 100km with 1l of diesel?

home refills are not directly comparable.

we are talking here about EV castaways who want to prove that an EV does as well as a VT in long distance.

They will therefore take sheets in I don't know what charging network, at nearly €1/kWh.

And yet they are very happy when the terminal works...