Coronavirus, who or what and why? What origin?

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by izentrop » 15/03/20, 20:05

GuyGadebois wrote:
izentrop wrote:There are 2 strains of this new coronavirus but with non-significant differences https://www.franceculture.fr/emissions/ ... -mars-2020.

This is typically the French way: We reassure, we give half-truths when we don't lie outright. "And Izy gobe" <<< Parody
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Now what can happen? Can new major mutations occur in SARS-Cov2 to produce other strains, either more aggressive or more infectious? No one can say because the world of viruses remains unpredictable. One thing is certain: the more the virus propagates within the human population and multiplies, the more mutations occur in its heritage and the more the risks of a new strain arising. Hence the efforts made by the health services to minimize the spread of this threat. https://www.sciencesetavenir.fr/fondame ... fie_142158
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by izentrop » 15/03/20, 20:40

GuyGadebois wrote:What chemistry is used to "fight effectively against a real problem like the coronavirus "(sic)
Inactivation of coronaviruses by biocidal agents in carrier tests
Ethanol at concentrations between 62% and 71% reduced the infectivity of coronaviruses within 1 min of exposure from 2,0 to 4,0 log 10. Concentrations of 0,1-0,5% sodium hypochlorite and 2% glutardialdehyde were also quite effective with a> 3,0 log 10 reduction in virus titer. https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext
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by GuyGadebois » 15/03/20, 21:08

izentrop wrote:
GuyGadebois wrote:What chemistry is used to "fight effectively against a real problem like the coronavirus "(sic)
Inactivation of coronaviruses by biocidal agents in carrier tests
Ethanol at concentrations between 62% and 71% reduced the infectivity of coronaviruses within 1 min of exposure from 2,0 to 4,0 log 10. Concentrations of 0,1-0,5% sodium hypochlorite and 2% glutardialdehyde were also quite effective with a> 3,0 log 10 reduction in virus titer. https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext

Ethanol, for me, is not “chemistry” in the strict sense. ”We used to call it alchemy or spagyria.
Historically, ethanol was produced by direct fermentation of natural sugars: the production of wine or fermented beer is attested in the Babylonian empire from 3000 BC. The first pure varieties are probably due to the Persian alchemists who developed the art of distillation in the XNUMXth and XNUMXth centuries of the Christian era.
http://www.ekopedia.fr/wiki/%C3%89thanol
Distillation is an ancestor of chemistry, therefore.
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by Christophe » 15/03/20, 22:30

So if we drink we can be immunized ?? : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:

Closing the bars was really not smart !! : Mrgreen:
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by izentrop » 15/03/20, 23:41

GuyGadebois wrote:Ethanol, for me, is not “chemistry” in the strict sense. ”We used to call it alchemy or spagyria.
We noticed that you didn't make the difference between science and esotericism. : Twisted:

That's it, laugh : Mrgreen: , also note
Human-to-human transmissions have been described with incubation times between 2 and 10 days, facilitating its spread via droplets, hands or contaminated surfaces. We therefore reviewed the literature on all the information available on the persistence of human and veterinary coronaviruses on inanimate surfaces as well as the strategies of inactivation with biocidal agents used for chemical disinfection, for example in health establishments. Analysis of 22 studies reveals that human coronaviruses such as severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS), Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS) or endemic human coronaviruses (HCoV) can persist on inanimate surfaces like metal, glass or plastic up to 9 days,
As no specific treatment is available for SARS-CoV-2, early containment and prevention of further spread will be crucial to stopping the current epidemic and controlling this new infectious thread.
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by GuyGadebois » 16/03/20, 00:06

izentrop wrote:
GuyGadebois wrote:Ethanol, for me, is not “chemistry” in the strict sense. ”We used to call it alchemy or spagyria.
We noticed that you didn't make the difference between science and esotericism. : Twisted:

Except that historically, this is strictly correct. The word chemistry didn't exist, but the process of producing ethanol was real. "Don't look for lice" ... : roll:
I put it back, he didn't read it: http://www.ekopedia.fr/wiki/%C3%89thanol
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by Janic » 16/03/20, 08:01

We noticed that you didn't make the difference between science and esotericism.
materialist "science" sees only the tip of the iceberg, esotericism the submerged part of the iceberg invisible to those who do not look below the water level.
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by GuyGadebois » 16/03/20, 11:38

What I said was nothing esoteric!
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by Exnihiloest » 16/03/20, 13:40

GuyGadebois wrote:Whose fault is it?
To the "modern" world, to "globalization", to our "way of life", to concentration camps, to the destruction of nature ...


Abject lie.
The virus is of natural origin, lack of hygiene in the Chinese markets, no tracing of meat ... it is a new epidemic as we regularly had in the past, a sign that it has nothing to do with the modern economy. Still accusing man of all natural disasters is part of eco-fascism.
This recovery of the coronavirus to defend the ecological leitmotiv also aims to justify the methods of political ecology that we see gradually being implemented. Because the current management of this coronavirus corresponds very closely to the methods that environmentalists have in mind for the future when they obtain power.
The general interest will be used as the reason for dictatorial measures. In his name, democratic rules will no longer prevail. In the name of global warming, you will be prohibited from traveling, in the name of fine particle pollution, you will be prohibited from choosing the means of transport, in the name of energy saving, you will be reduced Internet traffic to data centers or we will ration you electricity ...
Observing the management of the coronavirus is to get a good idea of ​​future greening.
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by GuyGadebois » 16/03/20, 13:51

Exnihiloest wrote:
GuyGadebois wrote:Whose fault is it?
To the "modern" world, to "globalization", to our "way of life", to concentration camps, to the destruction of nature ...


Abject lie.

Without globalization, the virus would have been confined to China, I am not alone to say, will take a nap.
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