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Re: Covid-19: vaccines and immunology




by pedrodelavega » 09/09/20, 23:01

sicetaitsimple wrote:
Obamot wrote:Ps: he said that in one of his last videos. Posted a week or two ago ...


That is a source! And are you sure he said what you remembered?
The best would still be instead of speaking for him to provide us the extract, to remain a bit credible .....
Anyway, what would he say if we asked him the question again today?
"Coronavirus in Marseille: The AP-HM will open additional beds to cope with the second wave"
https://www.20minutes.fr/sante/2857371- ... onde-vague
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by pedrodelavega » 09/09/20, 23:02

Obamot wrote:As I suggested several months ago at the HUG, we could very well be content to vaccinate (as a precaution) only the elderly and “at risk” subjects.
And let develop a collective immunity which will further weaken the virus.
Deaths are not the only problem in this pandemic.

Obamot wrote:But I don't see how stupid it would be to not vaccinate when lethality is at its lowest?
How much do you think it is?
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Re: Covid-19: vaccines and immunology




by Obamot » 09/09/20, 23:45

sicetaitsimple wrote:
Obamot wrote:Ps: he said that in one of his last videos. Posted a week or two ago ...


That is a source! And are you sure he said what you remembered?
The best would still be instead of speaking for him to provide us the extract, to remain a bit credible .....

HOP Lâaa ...

The subject really interests you, you criticize it sharply but you don't watch its videos?
So your criticisms are based on nothing after all?

Say-see: we are not your boys, seek yourself, you know the source!

And I have nothing to prove to someone who most of the time trolls or bashing (credibility my eye, that is not your goal)

Good to know hi
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by VetusLignum » 10/09/20, 14:21

sicetaitsimple wrote:Do you really think that the day one or more vaccines are validated, people (mostly) will hesitate a second before getting vaccinated?
This may not be your case, but you think that people who work outside their home will endure the 10h / d mask for a long time, that even partial "confinement" will be bearable for a long time, that a a large number of activities will endure their virtual shutdown for more than a year?

The "bad tongues" say that this is precisely the ulterior purpose of all these restrictions: that people flock to the vaccine as soon as it is available and without asking questions.
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by sicetaitsimple » 10/09/20, 14:33

VetusLignum wrote:
sicetaitsimple wrote:Do you really think that the day one or more vaccines are validated, people (mostly) will hesitate a second before getting vaccinated?
This may not be your case, but you think that people who work outside their home will endure the 10h / d mask for a long time, that even partial "confinement" will be bearable for a long time, that a a large number of activities will endure their virtual shutdown for more than a year?

The "bad tongues" say that this is precisely the ulterior purpose of all these restrictions: that people flock to the vaccine as soon as it is available and without asking questions.


You mean all these restrictions, all over the world, are just one big "Big Pharma" maneuver?
And so we can now throw all the masks in the trash, resume a life "as before", no problem?
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by VetusLignum » 10/09/20, 14:38

sicetaitsimple wrote:
VetusLignum wrote:
sicetaitsimple wrote:Do you really think that the day one or more vaccines are validated, people (mostly) will hesitate a second before getting vaccinated?
This may not be your case, but you think that people who work outside their home will endure the 10h / d mask for a long time, that even partial "confinement" will be bearable for a long time, that a a large number of activities will endure their virtual shutdown for more than a year?

The "bad tongues" say that this is precisely the ulterior purpose of all these restrictions: that people flock to the vaccine as soon as it is available and without asking questions.


You mean all these restrictions, all over the world, are just one big "Big Pharma" maneuver?
And so we can now throw all the masks in the trash, resume a life "as before", no problem?


I think this virus wouldn't be a problem for society (that there would be very few seriously ill people) if the package was put on early treatments.

End of this parenthesis as far as I am concerned.
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by ABC2019 » 10/09/20, 15:05

VetusLignum wrote:I think this virus wouldn't be a problem for society (that there would be very few seriously ill people) if the package was put on early treatments.

End of this parenthesis as far as I am concerned.

but which treatment would you give in first intention, on the basis of which studies?
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by Obamot » 10/09/20, 16:32

ABC2019 wrote:but which treatment would you give in first intention, on the basis of which studies?

It is up to the attending physician to decide of course! As if you didn't know that each case is a special case! Basically you ask questions to which you know the answers, you're a real troll and malicious with that!

And then the patient, as an individual, should be able to choose ...

But that's personal and unfortunately people are extremely misinformed.
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by ABC2019 » 10/09/20, 17:22

Obamot wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:but which treatment would you give in first intention, on the basis of which studies?

It is up to the attending physician to decide of course! As if you didn't know that each case is a special case!

the doctor does not decide on his own, or he will not be a doctor for long ... what early treatments are available then?
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Re: Covid-19: vaccines and immunology




by Obamot » 10/09/20, 19:28

You're right !

Bein look for them.
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