Was there an excess mortality in 2020 or not? ***

[Obamot]

Play smart in your ABC crook kingdom .... you're gonna fall from the top.

We KNOW that there has been a high excess mortality in all the places where we have let ourselves be overwhelmed by the virus

Of course Bozo, of course ...
As in Sweden:
Sweden.PNG
https://knoema.fr/atlas/Su%c3%a8de/topi ... alit%c3%a9
There is an explosion of deaths in 2020 in this country which has not confined and has been overwhelmed by the virus.

yes your graph does show a excess mortality compared to the downward trend in recent previous years, which is itself due to the increase in life expectancy.But Sweden is not the worst-case scenario - and I have nowhere said that strict lockdowns are needed to control the outbreak, it depends on countries and lifestyles. Take a look at Latin American countries for example.

This is the most manic and a-scientific commentary that I have read ... But it allows me to clarify certain springs:

- indeed, one of the keys THAT PROVE THAT THERE WAS NO EXCESS MORTALITY EST population growth!

- and this is also one of the reasons for this thread ...

- and you know it very very well (and for a very long time) since you speak about it and that it is one of the critical points except that knowing it and the fact that it undermines the meaning you want to give to your posts, you have always omitted it ... because yes, your approach is dishonest. Totally dishonest.

- except that there, you have to talk about it since you know that we will come to it ... (hypocrisy).

- only here you are cheating. Because when there is an increase in a given population, it is quite logical that the relative mortality increases (example the baby boomers who had been relatively spared these last five years thanks to the progress of medicine, it is necessary to underline, but virus or not, there is a moment when you have to go!) CQFD!

- except that you consider it to be excess mortality while of course it is not (hence my regular use of the z-score in recent months, which you did not like since you had removed all possibility of cheating, and besides, you brought back your strawberry much less).

So here you are caught in the act of deception!

I almost want to say that the thread could end there! But no, there are still many elements still not taken into account and which will be revealed and developed later ... to put an end to this hoax!

(at this stage, there are still 1/3 of them who consider that there was NO excess mortality ... in case I remind you that you can change your vote at any time ...)

[Janic]

ABCon »07/08/21, 08:21

owiii bunnyrabbit

please confirm what I said above, the big fool!
Roughly speaking, you are the mutant covid of this site and since you parasitize it, that you infect it, there is an excess mortality of participants!

[ABC2019]

Play smart in your ABC crook kingdom .... you're gonna fall from the top.

Of course Bozo, of course ...
As in Sweden:
Sweden.PNG
https://knoema.fr/atlas/Su%c3%a8de/topi ... alit%c3%a9
There is an explosion of deaths in 2020 in this country which has not confined and has been overwhelmed by the virus.

yes your graph does show a excess mortality compared to the downward trend in recent previous years, which is itself due to the increase in life expectancy.But Sweden is not the worst-case scenario - and I have nowhere said that strict lockdowns are needed to control the outbreak, it depends on countries and lifestyles. Take a look at Latin American countries for example.

This is the most manic and a-scientific commentary that I have read ... But it allows me to clarify certain springs:

- indeed, one of the keys THAT PROVE THAT THERE WAS NO EXCESS MORTALITY EST population growth!

there is nothing to prove that there has not been excess mortality, since there has been excess mortality, in certain countries obviously, not in those which have succeeded in containing the virus thanks to strict measures. You continue your negationism and your disinformation.

[Janic]

abcon

there is nothing to prove that there has not been excess mortality, since there has been excess mortality, in certain countries obviously, not in those which have succeeded in containing the virus thanks to strict measures. You continue your negationism and your disinformation.

and the idiot on duty who continues his mixes in line with stupid and ignorant influencers. We ask you about our country, not in distant countries with totally different conditions from ours. Go bring back some real science, not your usual fakenews, or go back to bed in the doghouse!

[Obamot]

there is nothing to prove that there has not been excess mortality, since there has been excess mortality, in certain countries obviously, not in those which have succeeded in containing the virus thanks to strict measures. You continue your negationism and your disinformation.

Pure opinion => no value => trash.

Ah woouuuiiii, loose ballast, loose ballast bozo, that's all you have to do! And push us to have to prove something that doesn't exist, it's your role as conjurer, not ours

But it's already good, you let go of ballast, which means that you implicitly admit that the display of an alleged excess mortality does not apply everywhere ... a virus “Dangerous in some countries and not in others wow, what a beautiful “scientific” approach you are giving us here ...

So, explains us, vaccination is not necessary in some countries?

The virus stops at the border, right?

Poor old man who helplessly contributes to the collapse of all his own demonstrations

[Janic]

the collapse of all its own demonstrations

these are not demonstrations (you shouldn't ask too much of him all the same) but ramblings of his sick narcissistic mind.

[ABC2019]

there is nothing to prove that there has not been excess mortality, since there has been excess mortality, in certain countries obviously, not in those which have succeeded in containing the virus thanks to strict measures. You continue your negationism and your disinformation.

Pure opinion => no value => trash.

if you want numbers here

https://elifesciences.org/articles/69336#s2

for France, an excess of 70 deaths until June 000, 13, z-score of 2021, therefore very significant.

As it is over a year and a half, in 2020 we must have had about 40 to 50 more deaths so around 000%, the correct answer to your survey for 8 is "between 2020 and 5%".

[ABC2019]

Peru, with a population half smaller, has an excess of 190 deaths, so we can estimate plausibly that we could have had 000 deaths in France without health measures and without vaccination.

[Obamot]

That's it, mix it all up, laugh at us

there is nothing to prove that there has not been excess mortality, since there has been excess mortality, in certain countries obviously, not in those which have succeeded in containing the virus thanks to strict measures. You continue your negationism and your disinformation.

Pure opinion => no value => trash.

if you want numbers here

https://elifesciences.org/articles/69336#s2

for France, an excess of 70 deaths until June 000, 13, z-score of 2021, therefore very significant.

As it is over a year and a half, in 2020 we must have had about 40 to 50 more deaths so around 000%, the correct answer to your survey for 8 is "between 2020 and 5%".

2nd flagrante delicto of deception!

You have to take the deaths flu season by flu season, sorry (and you know that very well, even if you make up for it afterwards) ...

In this case, from October 2019 to May 2020 (or even until September but it is between-season ...)

You must therefore provide the exact figures for the season concerned and nothing else ...

[ABC2019]

Pure opinion => no value => trash.

if you want numbers here

https://elifesciences.org/articles/69336#s2

for France, an excess of 70 deaths until June 000, 13, z-score of 2021, therefore very significant.

As it is over a year and a half, in 2020 we must have had about 40 to 50 more deaths so around 000%, the correct answer to your survey for 8 is "between 2020 and 5%".

2nd flagrante delicto of deception!

You have to take the deaths flu season by flu season, sorry (and you know that very well, even if you make up for it afterwards) ...

Completely beside the point, the article is content to measure the overall excess mortality from all causes over the years 2020-2021 compared to previous years. It has nothing to do with the flu in particular. This is the question you asked in your survey, isn't it?