Econologist friends Hello,
A word of advice, stop sacrificing your tomatoes, potatoes and other eggs which have taken time to grow and become what they should never have been other than food !!!
Without wanting to take out my science, you should know that a burn is a sudden and abnormally high increase in temperature. To limit the damage, it is therefore necessary ... to cool.
And yes it's very stupid, less romantic and especially less rustic ... but that's how it is.
So take your little mimine and put it under cold water (not too cold anyway) and trickle the water gently until you no longer hurt. In principle you let the water run for a few minutes then you remove the so-called mimine and if it continues to hurt, you put it back under water ... and so on until it disappears total pain (a sign that it continues to cook).
Of course I said the mimine in case it is the mimine which is burned. If it's your ass, of course it's him that you have to put underwater
And after ?? Well if it's a superficial burn, just watch for infection.
If the burn is deeper and / or more extensive, it is better to consult because there is a risk of dehydration and especially a risk of damage to the circulatory system. Indeed, a generalized sunburn on all the back is not less dangerous than a big blister in the hand.
Against burns: the egg white
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I don't remember it was 15 years ago ... there was a product included in the tulle gras ...
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I confirm the thing to you, I have some in the pharmacy of the house (in the fridge) that keeps much better ...
Like Cyano-Acrylate glue for that matter !!!! 3 years without hardening and always ready to serve, note this in your memories
Meow
Like Cyano-Acrylate glue for that matter !!!! 3 years without hardening and always ready to serve, note this in your memories
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I largely agree with C moa's comments.
Specialist doctors recommend: cold water for up to 20 minutes. In fact, the cooling causes local analgesia and an influx of restorative blood and lymph.
A priori any application of fatty product is to be avoided as long as the skin does not protect itself. Naturally the skin will create a protective layer which will protect from contact with air. Once the skin has created its protective layer, we can consider protecting it from contact with sterile gauze, because infection is the enemy to fear.
Anyway: as soon as 3rd degree or more than 10-20 cm in the 2nd degree: medic because there are sometimes other things than the burn to detect and measures to take if the burn is deep
Specialist doctors recommend: cold water for up to 20 minutes. In fact, the cooling causes local analgesia and an influx of restorative blood and lymph.
A priori any application of fatty product is to be avoided as long as the skin does not protect itself. Naturally the skin will create a protective layer which will protect from contact with air. Once the skin has created its protective layer, we can consider protecting it from contact with sterile gauze, because infection is the enemy to fear.
Anyway: as soon as 3rd degree or more than 10-20 cm in the 2nd degree: medic because there are sometimes other things than the burn to detect and measures to take if the burn is deep
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Well, I'm not a rescuer but I think, in the treatment, that we must distinguish dry burns (flames), wet burns (water or boiling liquid) and chemical (the worst) ...
In my case it was a wet burn and I have, if I remember correctly, applied grease ... from the start but really it goes back so long ...
In my case it was a wet burn and I have, if I remember correctly, applied grease ... from the start but really it goes back so long ...
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Actually no, we only consider if it is a simple or severe burn. The idea in both cases is to prevent the spread of the burn. In the case of a thermal burn (dry or wet it is the same problem), the idea is to avoid that the affected part continues to cook so it cools.Christophe wrote:Well, I'm not a rescuer but I think, in the treatment, that we must distinguish dry burns (flames), wet burns (water or boiling liquid) and chemical (the worst) ...
In the case of a chemical burn, the idea is also to prevent the product from continuing to penetrate and therefore we will water to transfer and especially dilute the product. In some factories, you can find very effective "neutralizers" but the idea is the same, to prevent it from spreading.
It must also be said that things are changing, there are many things that we did in the past that are now prohibited (aspi venom for example).In my case it was a wet burn and I have, if I remember correctly, applied grease ... from the start but really it goes back so long ...
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burns have different natures depending on what caused them, the worst are probably chemicals, because they are very quickly deep ... (and can be with strong bases caustic soda for example, more vicious than with strong acids)
The most frequent are domestic type, we can never talk enough about fryers and the immense danger they represent, and I am not talking about the fire danger in the less fortunate who still fry stuff on gas or in a saucepan !!! (RTL showed yesterday, the still disturbing images, of the water poured into a deep fryer on fire !!!! the immense flames which ravage everything around)
The purchase of an electric fryer should be mandatory ...
Then come the burns with boiling water, still in the kitchen, and beware if the water (pasta) contains oil !, it's even hotter and the oil on a burn, ouch, ouch! its really hurt !!!
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If you have any doubts about the degree of the burn, go see a doctor, it's the best reflex (with the product label, even cleaning products - the oven stripper, in particular)
But I certify that the painful burning on the finger with, the iron soldered, the pan, the iron is very quickly relieved by the bleach commonly sold commercially-provided it is not scented-au pine for example, additives are not recommended !!!
And the potato too, but not as easy to implement ... you have to change the poultice of pdt when it oxidizes in the air and turn brown !!
I guarantee you a good result if you respect the rules of elementary hygiene ...
Meow
burns have different natures depending on what caused them, the worst are probably chemicals, because they are very quickly deep ... (and can be with strong bases caustic soda for example, more vicious than with strong acids)
The most frequent are domestic type, we can never talk enough about fryers and the immense danger they represent, and I am not talking about the fire danger in the less fortunate who still fry stuff on gas or in a saucepan !!! (RTL showed yesterday, the still disturbing images, of the water poured into a deep fryer on fire !!!! the immense flames which ravage everything around)
The purchase of an electric fryer should be mandatory ...
Then come the burns with boiling water, still in the kitchen, and beware if the water (pasta) contains oil !, it's even hotter and the oil on a burn, ouch, ouch! its really hurt !!!
+1 Elephant
If you have any doubts about the degree of the burn, go see a doctor, it's the best reflex (with the product label, even cleaning products - the oven stripper, in particular)
But I certify that the painful burning on the finger with, the iron soldered, the pan, the iron is very quickly relieved by the bleach commonly sold commercially-provided it is not scented-au pine for example, additives are not recommended !!!
And the potato too, but not as easy to implement ... you have to change the poultice of pdt when it oxidizes in the air and turn brown !!
I guarantee you a good result if you respect the rules of elementary hygiene ...
Meow
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"The power of love, must be stronger than the love of power" contemporary Lie Tzu?
One sees clearly only with the heart, the essential is invisible to the eyes ...
"The power of love, must be stronger than the love of power" contemporary Lie Tzu?
One sees clearly only with the heart, the essential is invisible to the eyes ...
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C moa wrote: It must also be said that things are changing, there are many things that we did in the past that are now prohibited (aspi venom for example).
Can you clarify this point Cmoa? PLEASE ?
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By removing Human Nature, he was far from his nature! Lietseu
"The power of love, must be stronger than the love of power" contemporary Lie Tzu?
One sees clearly only with the heart, the essential is invisible to the eyes ...
"The power of love, must be stronger than the love of power" contemporary Lie Tzu?
One sees clearly only with the heart, the essential is invisible to the eyes ...
And it is just to say that research is progressing, that techniques are evolving with it and therefore what was done in the past is not necessarily yet authorized or even proscribed.Lietseu wrote:C moa wrote: It must also be said that things are changing, there are many things that we did in the past that are now prohibited (aspi venom for example).
Can you clarify this point Cmoa? PLEASE ?
Some examples :
- In the past we did a cardiac massage at the rate of 15 sternal compressions / 2 breaths and the latest guidelines follow the recommendations of ILCOR and say 30 sternal compressions / 2 breaths;
- The tourniquet was taught for several decades, then was abandoned and finally returned today;
- Aspivenin has been used for decades also to take care of wasp stings, bees and other reptiles and today the use of these devices is prohibited by law. The latest studies show that its use accelerates the passage of venom through the blood, just the opposite of the expected effect.
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We could talk about the hours of these developments.
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If aspi venom not ok, me Alphonse 3 from Turkey ...
I used this trick and it was at least as conclusive (though) as the gram of salt placed on the wasp bite wound ... put a drop of water and let it evaporate, the venom is absorbed by the salt...
QED!
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I used this trick and it was at least as conclusive (though) as the gram of salt placed on the wasp bite wound ... put a drop of water and let it evaporate, the venom is absorbed by the salt...
QED!
Meow
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By removing Human Nature, he was far from his nature! Lietseu
"The power of love, must be stronger than the love of power" contemporary Lie Tzu?
One sees clearly only with the heart, the essential is invisible to the eyes ...
"The power of love, must be stronger than the love of power" contemporary Lie Tzu?
One sees clearly only with the heart, the essential is invisible to the eyes ...
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