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by Remundo » 09/05/20, 16:12

the more a power is incompetent, the more it needs authoritarianism.

Having authority over people is legitimate, having control is decreed.

edit: i just stumbled on it

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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 09/05/20, 16:44

Remundo wrote:the more a power is incompetent, the more it needs authoritarianism.

Having authority over people is legitimate, having control is decreed.

edit: i just stumbled on it


Well if you open the link of FR3 it's .... the same
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by Julienmos » 11/05/20, 17:09

there is also talk of chloroquine, at one point

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by Obamot » 11/05/20, 17:46

Remundo wrote:
edit: i just stumbled on it

Terrifying! Well indeed, it hangs in our face!

Despite everything, I know one who could still cry: at the "conspiracy theory" Image
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by GuyGadebois » 11/05/20, 17:55

Remundo wrote:edit: i just stumbled on it

The complicit state of Microsoft, the data will be sold to insurance companies, mutuals and all those who wait like vultures for the disintegration of social services, the dispossession of the usual powers of the doctors we want to order. I confirm once again my fears of popular movements of a violence never seen since 68, in worse. :(
The government has already tried to use doctors as police assistants:
"We are asked to denounce": doctors denounce the filing of injured "yellow vests"
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/economie/tr ... 07263.html
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by GuyGadebois » 11/05/20, 18:07

Extremely interesting:
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 11/05/20, 19:28

Julienmos wrote:there is also talk of chloroquine, at one point




This is what I kill myself to repeat ...

Radiated the good lady?
At least a good rebuke ....

https://www.aveyrondigitalnews.fr/2020/ ... tat-video/

To be continued
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 11/05/20, 21:49

Hold on a little more and then it'll please Guy.
It talks about his girlfriend.

https://blogs.mediapart.fr/arjuna/blog/ ... hippocrate

All you have to do is put an ad libitum link to this post and we will be quiet ...


Reverting to the Hippocratic Oath

17/04/2020

»Fifty years of field medicine…
I am 76 years old and I saw flu epidemics from 69-70, which killed 30 to 40 people without causing a population infantilized by the idea of ​​death and - especially - by the media and politicians riding the wave.

I have for many years assumed a practice of 40 to 5 patients day and night and Sunday despite 3 partners whom I had welcomed by my side.

Still registered with the Council of the Order, I have just treated a dozen people with covid 19 and I went there myself without any problem by not hesitating to take Nivaquine + antibiotic therapy.

Yes, we are not sure of the effectiveness of this treatment… but then, what to offer to our patients? For my friends and relatives, as for me, I did not hesitate.

Toxicity of hydrochloroquine? I prescribed it like all the other doctors for 50 years (without being bored) against malaria and in certain rheumatic affections without the slightest incident when I had to hospitalize paracetamol cirrhosis in non-alcoholics, not to mention digestive hemorrhages on aspirin…

Confinement: certainly for vulnerable people and in order not to clog up resuscitation services that did not exist in the 70s.

But we will prove it when we are in possession of reliable serological tests: whatever we do, three-quarters of the population will have contracted Covid 19 by presenting only a simple "flu" or a strong flu.

What about the cacophony of "great teachers" (how many of them have really done basic research?) Of great teachers who for the most part never had to treat flu and viral pneumonia when we We have treated thousands over the course of our careers and that we, the family physicians on the front line, care for three-quarters of people with Covid 19.

Yes: what do they have to offer?
So let the responsible family doctor do his job without banning him or her from such and such a product!

Or else, we forbid him the right to treat! Only a few great specialists and researchers have the right to teach us.
All my admiration goes to the resuscitation doctors and their assistants who dedicate themselves wonderfully 24 hours a day for desperate cases.

But if one day, it is confirmed that Nivaquine and Plaquénil have an efficacy - even relative - against the Covid 19, then we will be entitled to accuse all those who prohibited it, of having endangered the life of hundreds of thousands of patients and - even - to bring them to justice.
Because, having been mayor for 19 years and Regional Councilor for 12 years, I doubt the guilt of certain "big" elected officials.

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by Remundo » 11/05/20, 22:01

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Re: Resignation of Dr Raoult, supporter of Chloroquine, from the Covid Scientific Council19




by izentrop » 12/05/20, 01:41

Press release from the National Academy of Medicine: Clinical research and Covid-19: science is not an option
Scientific truth cannot be decreed with the applaudimeter. It does not emerge from political discourse, petitions or social networks. In science, it is neither the majority weight nor the argument of authority which prevails.

It was however in this type of drift that the search for active drug treatments against Covid-19 went astray: too much haste in communication, too many premature announcements, too much discord between the teams, too much pressure from all kinds, but not enough science.
... there have been so many passionate, even compassionate, positions in favor of hydroxychloroquine before any comparative trial, and the pressures so strong in an anxiety-provoking context, that the patients would not accept to enter the trial only with the certainty of not being included in the placebo arm, which is incompatible with the very principle of the controlled trial. Consequently, few being those who agreed to contribute to the advancement of science.

In addition, the spontaneously favorable development of SARS-CoV-2 infection in 85% of cases means that a large number of participants must be recruited to demonstrate the effectiveness of treatment in the initial phase of the disease. However, the regrettable dispersion of trials limits the size of the workforce and reduces the statistical power of the results.

Finally, the hype in favor of hydroxychloroquine being seconded to remdesivir and tocilizumab on the basis of modest preliminary results, it is important to remain cautious while awaiting their confirmation ...
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