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[izentrop]

Operetta ecologism.

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Operetta ecologism.

Deep, unfathomable and incurable stupidity ...

[Obamot]

just a clarification! the real vinegar contains acetic acid due to fermentation and not pure like all organic products. 100% chemically reconstituted acetic acid is a toxic product not recognized by living things including plants!

You mean wine vinegar is not recommended?

[Janic]

obamot

You mean wine vinegar is not recommended?

in relation to which criteria?

[Obamot]

Well, wine is still an eminently chemical product in principle unnatural (except for the grapes from bunches that have rotted on the stalk and fermented at the option of natural biochemical transformations, without human intervention) and vinegar is made with this product. synthetic chemical that is wine, in the process of which other chemicals produced by human hands are added, such as:

Ammonia,
arsenic,
hydrochloric acid,
Sulfur dioxide * (and other sulfites E220, E221, E222, E223, E224, E226, E227, E228),
Carbon dioxide *,
argon,
phosphate,
diammonium sulphate: treatment of musts in winemaking.
ammonium sulfate: same use as diammonium phosphate.
ammonium bisufite,
thiamine dichloride,
potassium bisulfite,
potassium metabisulphite: sulphiting of wine musts.
potassium casein and caseinates,
ovalbumin,
lactalbulmin,
silicon dioxide,
pectolytic enzymes,
betaglucanase,
sorbic acid,
potassium sorbate,
tartaric acid *: franking of cement vats. Acidification of musts and wines.
neutral potassium tartrate *: tartaric stabilization of wines by cold treatment.
potassium bicarbonate,
calcium carbonate,
calcium tartrate,
lactic acid bacteria,
isosymium,
ascorbic acid: prevention of maderization in wines. Maintaining freshness and fruity Prevention of iron breakage.
citric acid *: prevention of the risk of ferric breakdown.
calcium phytate,
calcium alginate,
ammonium salts,
thiamine: liquid fermentation activator based on thiamine and ammonium sulphate.
allyl isothiocyanate,
copper sulfate,
sucrose,
lead acetate,
mercuric bromide,
stannous chloride,
potassium iodide,
nitric acid,
sulfuric acid,
platinized zinc,
pure zinc,
boric acid,
ion exchange resins,
metatartaric acid,
calcium alginate,
potassium alginate,
fumaric acid,
gum arabic: stabilization of wines before bottling.
polyoxyethylene stearate,
dimethylposiloxane.
(Adjuvants followed by an * are authorized in private organic wine making charters).

Source: https://dico-du-vin.com/produits-chimiq ... ns-le-vin/

... it is therefore wine (a chemical that can contain many other chemicals) that we make another chemical, for another use: vinegar.

So I don't know if you consider that the acetic acid that wine vinegar contains is “reconstituted” or not (since not due to the occurrence of a process in bunches of grapes having rotted on the vine with production of fermentation and production of 100% natural acetic acid, because resulting from it).

Starting from the point of view that winemaking is a human-made process. If my hypothesis is correct, would it not be worth finding a reformulation so that we understand what you mean by “real vinegar”?

[Janic]

Obamot »11/08/21, 11:57

Well, wine is still an eminently chemical product in principle unnatural (except the grapes of bunches which have rotted on the stalk and fermented at the option of natural biochemical transformations, without human intervention)

or almost!
That's why I asked the question; according to what criteria? The only natural wine comes from a fermentation of grape juice, intended to prolong the benefits of this product over a longer term, not to make it an economical industrial product, nor to make it a deadly product as we count it. every year.

and vinegar is made with this synthetic chemical that is wine,

it has become such, not at its origin… distant!

Starting from the point of view that winemaking is a human-made process. If my hypothesis is correct, would it not be worth finding a reformulation so that we understand what you mean by “real vinegar”?

It would be necessary from an ethical point of view, but not from a cultural, social and industrial point of view. It's like saying real bread or real sauerkraut or real yogurt, kefir, etc ... and any other product processed by humans.

A typical example of a cultural and cult distortion on the word WINE used in the Greek writings of the bible where Jesus is supposed to share a cup of wine with his disciples " drink this is my blood… Etc. The exegetical study of the texts does not in any way allow us to say what drink it was, it could be tomato juice or anything else. But consuming fermented grape juice is part of contemporary Jewish and Roman culture, which uses unfermented grapes as much as fermented wine.
Suddenly mentalities then consider, many years later, that it could only be picrate, Beaujolpif!
Likewise, vinegar is only picrate which has turned by becoming sour. On the “health” level, it is another more controversial aspect, always because it is cultural, gastronomic where it plays the role of flavor enhancer or of hiding misery of what is precisely tasteless!

[Obamot]

It has-na pa / not re-pompom du-du to the question


— "You mean wine vinegar is not recommended?"

just a clarification! the real vinegar contains acetic acid due to fermentation and not pure like all organic products. 100% chemically reconstituted acetic acid is a toxic product not recognized by living things including plants!

What about "artisanal" vinegars from Modena in mass distribution in terms of their acetic acid, would it be toxic and if so why? (what what) me finally

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

It could be recalled that organic wines contain no (or few) chemicals and that Demeter wines even less. So-called "natural" wines also if they are produced under one or other of these specifications (Labels). Otherwise, in fact, wine is one of the drinks that contains the most toxic inputs and if we were to apply the potability criterion in force for water to them, most of them would not be marketable!

[Obamot]

It's true but I bought a Côté du Rhône “Bio” it was not great in ”wine, but at least it ended up in vinegar.

It was his “destiny”

[izentrop]

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