Is organic farming really safe?

[sicetaitsimple]

And yet there are methods, organic, which allow higher yields than conventional agriculture, on the condition of not doing monoculture, which makes mechanization impossible and would cause prices to explode.

Which? Are you sure you're talking about the same thing as the tweet, that is to say field crops (wheat, corn,...), and no market gardening?

[fracass]

Indeed, that's what I was saying, field crops "are made" for the conventional. Transposing them organically does not work well, in monoculture. At least I don't know of any.

[sicetaitsimple]

Ok, I wasn't sure I understood correctly.

[gfgh64]

I'm not sure, of course intensive cultivation on very large surfaces is a good idea, even in organic

the only interest in increasing yields is to deliver more tons to the scales, but for us consumers no interest given that the nutritional value is decreasing!! we buy wind!!!!

the only way is already to rethink agriculture, it must benefit the farmer, the consumer and nature and less to the big chemical groups synthetic material banker

as in many other subjects, the solution is most certainly a mix of several things but certainly not in the extremes or in the lobbies

and for the question; Is organic farming really safe? Well it depends!!!

for whom, and also, it's like everything, it depends on how it's done!!!

[izentrop]

the only interest in increasing yields is to deliver more tons to the scales, but for us consumers no interest given that the nutritional value is decreasing!!

Ha good Do you have sources for this extraordinary claim?

[gfgh64]

well frankly there at hand no
but it must be difficult to find
I just remember that the example of the apple is the most glaring
and also my baker CAP techno lessons with companions with the plummeting gluten (protein rate) depending on the increase in yields over several years (from 70 to 80 maybe), and also at the school of Grand Moulins de Paris, for my pastry CAP, just before Bouygue bought it for the Grande Bibliotheque (not c.. Le Francis)
but apart from my personal example, the relationship between increased yield and reduced nutritional value, it shouldn't be too complicated to find
even more for you, who seems to find nuggets in spades

[gfgh64]

already just hastily not taken the time to read it thoroughly

https://www.nationalgeographic.fr/envir ... -nutritifs

[gfgh64]

this one is more mixed, but remains in the idea more yield less nutrient, and izentrope lily after the apple too

https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/ar ... 55770.html

[izentrop]

Your links are irrelevant.

With good fertilization, a good variety and rainfall at the right times, it is quite normal to reconcile yield and nutritional quality. https://www.yara.fr/fertilisation/pur-n ... te-du-ble/
More difficult in organic where fertilization inputs are limited or overpriced.

[gfgh64]

Your links are irrelevant.

With good fertilization, a good variety and rainfall at the right times, it is quite normal to reconcile yield and nutritional quality. https://www.yara.fr/fertilisation/pur-n ... te-du-ble/
More difficult in organic where fertilization inputs are limited or overpriced.

1 With good fertilization ok, in sterile soil, and synthetic input of course

2 a good variety ok, but the intensive has precisely selected varieties that offer yield (to the detriment of nutrients) as said in some irrelevant links

3 rainfall at the right times ok, but like that it is not frequent and that the large cultivated areas promote the drying out of the soil

4 Your links are not relevant ok you at least yara has no economic interest because there is nothing to sell in your link

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