Woke and dictatorship of minorities and neo totalitarianism under the guise of anti racism (scary)

[Janic]

remondo

This term "anti-Semite" where the Jews arrogate to themselves the totality of the Semitic descendants while they are only a small fraction, or even are not... Because in reality, many of the Jews settled in Israel are more of Euro-Caucasian or American ancestry (which amounts to roughly the same thing) following the regrouping of the post-WWII "diaspora"...

Very just! Moreover, the term Jewish (which has become pejorative) designates the inhabitants of Judea before the diaspora.
Indeed all Israelis, therefore having Israeli nationality, are not descendants of the Mosaic "religion" and can be atheists, agnostics or adherents to other religions or philosophies and have no family ties with the Semites, descendants of 'an ancestor, Abraham, common to "Jews and Muslims" ... therefore Semites!

[Janic]

21/10/23, 17:39
ahmed

The verb "vegetate" has two different meanings depending on the context and everyone finds their bearings without problem. Context is everything and allows the same word to convey very different messages: thus, during a birth, the phrase "it's a girl!" has a completely different meaning than the dismissive "she's a 'girl'" regarding a person of restricted virtue.

all right!

That the courts, within their sphere of influence evolve towards child criminal, rather than pedophile in no way prevents the latter qualifier from being understood in a very pejorative connotation, independently of any pedantic consideration [*]on an exact but obsolete etymology.

as you said previously, it is evolving and in the right direction, towards its original meaning! Evolution is beautiful!

As for your judgments on the character of my interventions, I gladly exempt you from them.

it is only an opinion, a passing remark which does not disqualify your brilliant interventions.... they... when they are! .
[*] by the way: As for your judgments on the character of my interventions, I gladly exempt you from them.

[Remundo]

not long ago I was teaching my students about the atom...

I explained to them that atom comes from the Greek "a-tomos", which cannot be cut.

And yet I also told them that this word is tricky because we have known that we can break the atom since the beginning of the XNUMXth century: superficially already in the electronic procession, and of course deeply at the nuclear level.

But this concept of atom still retains a certain coherence on the scale of molecular or crystalline matter. More coherent in my opinion than the word anti-Semitic to designate an anti-Jew.

[Janic]

More coherent in my opinion than the word anti-Semitic to designate an anti-Jew.

of course, but on the one hand it is pure and hard science, and on the other a political and social approach with everything subjective.

[Ahmed]

...however subjectivity remains central in language, since it is precisely its role to translate it.

[Janic]

21/10/23, 19:05
ahmed

...however subjectivity remains central in language, since it is precisely its role to translate it.

to translate it, not to betray it through demagoguery!

[Ahmed]

There is no truth in language, only fluctuating semantic content. The only relative "constant" that is observed remains the consensus at a given moment, and depending on the context, on this content. It is therefore impossible for linguistic taxidermists to freeze it for the sake of unjustifiable purism.

[Janic]

ahmed

There is no truth in language, only fluctuating semantic content.

all the more so if it fluctuates and therefore refluctuates towards its origin.

The only relative "constant" that is observed remains the consensus at a given moment[*],

Effectively! But it is not because the majority of them are ignorant that they become knowledgeable.

and depending on the context, on this content. It is therefore impossible for linguistic taxidermists to freeze it for the sake of unjustifiable purism.

and yet, willingly or unwillingly, everyone ends up returning to the origin when the multitude of deviations prevents, (but perhaps this is intended.) from grasping its real meaning.
Like for evolutionism and vaccinalism, to please Simplet and you possibly.

[*] the consensus at a given moment in history was royalty and the church, today this (supposed) consensus has become the republic and atheism. Which is only a change of appearance, not reality, which is hidden behind other words.
Still like vaccinalism and evolutionism! Hello Simplet!

[Ahmed]

What you don't seem to understand is that language does not seek to convey any truth, only a message, that is, something that different speakers can exchange. It is therefore important that the tool used is common to the different stakeholders, nothing more...
From this point of view, the original meaning is not superior to those which can subsequently arise through successive shifts or even inversion.

For example, the phrase "good woman's remedy" currently means a remedy passed down by tradition (bonne femme being roughly translated as grandmother), which may be considered derogatory to some and more positive to others, but everyone agrees on the overall meaning. However, there is a mistake due to homophony between the original Latin word "fame" which indicated a "famous" and "female" remedy, more understandable for non-Latinists (and probably illiterate); However, in its modern meaning, this expression fulfills its role perfectly, although it is very different from the ancient .

[Janic]

ahmed

What you don't seem to understand is that language does not seek to convey any truth, only a message, that is, something that different speakers can exchange.[*] It is therefore important that the tool used is common to the different stakeholders, nothing more...

This is partially correct! in fact, by undergoing successive deformations, populations must follow them.
Being a trained mechanic, a deformed part goes to waste because it risks causing a breakage and therefore an accident [*]. But some, before the CT, could drive vehicles that were dangerous for them and their passengers because of these parts deformed by use.
It must be believed that more importance is given to the quality of the mechanics than to the quality of the words used.

From this point of view, the original meaning is not superior to those which can subsequently arise through successive shifts or even inversion.

as you point out, it is only a point of view, therefore legitimate for you...only!

[*] for the meaning of words, misunderstandings because of the various interpretations of these words, this leads to division and even more to war as we see it currently.
For example this covid “vaccine” which separated scientists, doctors and nurses, some considering that the qualification of vaccine was justified for this product, others considering an inadequacy between this product and its usual definition. This led the authority in place to exclude these "refractory" people by endangering their own activity and their family finding themselves without income to live on, in a society which recommends the freedom of choice guaranteed by the laws of the country, however. .
anecdotally, for those interested in the subject, a biblical passage spoken of the Tower of Babel where the individuals participating in this ambitious construction end up separating because of their confusion of languages, or rather for their mutual incomprehension regarding the terms to be to use. One requiring a hammer and the other providing him with a screwdriver therefore making this construction impossible.