Are "forest gardens" the future of our vegetable gardens?

[Ahmed]

On the first point, I think that there was a strong potential for the convergence of the two species to begin with and that, given the very wide variety of human cultures, the different hypotheses remain valid, because the probability that all have been verified is very tall. What would be a mistake would be to believe that there was only one way to live together ...
As for the second, it is currently the best hypothesis, in ignorance of the cultural aspects of this relationship (we only know that they were globally peaceful, which excludes a proper extermination).

[Moindreffor]

As for the second, it is currently the best hypothesis, in ignorance of the cultural aspects of this relationship (we only know that they were globally peaceful, which excludes a proper extermination).

hence my reflection, homo-sapiens by its mere presence can be a limiting factor on certain species, or even lead to their extinction without real desire to harm
So if in addition we give him a blank check to do what he pleases ... and play the creator ...

[Ahmed]

Yes and no, 99,9% of the species that have existed have disappeared and for the most part men (I prefer the plural) have nothing to do with it with great certainty, since they did not yet exist ... disappearance is a normal phenomenon and if the technosphere triumphs, it will be our turn, since it has become unsuitable.

[Moindreffor]

Yes and no, 99,9% of the species that have existed have disappeared and for the most part men (I prefer the plural) have nothing to do with it with great certainty, since they did not yet exist ... disappearance is a normal phenomenon and if the technosphere triumphs, it will be our turn, since it has become unsuitable.

yes, that is the natural balance, there have been peaks of extinctions and peaks of development, except that currently we are not in a peak of natural extinction, so to speak.

so does a peak of extinction, whether natural or artificial, remain a peak of extinction?

when 90% of species disappear naturally, what diversity is present in the remaining 10%?
when the dinosaurs died out, there were a few left, mammals already existed, insects, "birds", so a great diversity, but if human exactions make a whole pan of species disappear, s 'there is nothing left, there will be no possibility of leaving

take an oak tree, you can cut off a branch, two, but if you cut it too severely, if you only leave the trunk, will it start again from the stump? some trees are capable of it and so it will start again for them, but for this oak? (I take the example of oak because it seems to me that it will not leave again, but I am not a specialist) it is to illustrate my remarks

this is why, I am against the idea that bringing diversity by inoculating a territory with species from another territory without any precaution or to hope to save one species even if it means losing others is not an idea to support, nature is already sufficiently capable of causing massive extinctions as you say, no need to help or accelerate things

[Ahmed]

It is a complex subject. If we assume that human actors are directly responsible for the Sixth Mass Extinction, we don't really describe the situation. First of all, it is not "Man" who is involved, but those who are under the influence of forces which exceed them and who are, in reality, only executing agents (therefore responsible, but not guilty, according to the famous formula!). Moreover, and this confirms this point of view, the destruction of the biosphere also concerns our species: there is therefore a suicidal dimension to this ecocide. If god is dead and the men who caused his disappearance replace him, then they will be next on the list.
Regarding the last point you mentioned, living things are so complex (they are just interactions) that it actually seems presumptuous to me to interfere in the affair. I have been busy with a lot of applied biology and it is an area that can only quickly encourage modesty ... I have known many who operated simplifying shortcuts, but their enthusiasm was not enough to fool the nature. How many mistakes I myself have made ...

[Moindreffor]

It is a complex subject. [...] it is an area which can only quickly encourage modesty ... I have known many who made simplifying shortcuts, but their enthusiasm was not enough to fool nature. How many mistakes I myself have made ...

that's why I'm more in this area for the saying

he who does nothing, risks nothing ...