Janic wrote:
You're an integrist, just read your raves about alcohol as well.
Ah, I hit the sore spot! <<
Ridiculous, it's your reasoning that I attack
these deblatrations are those of scientists and doctors specialized in this field, not those of the merchants of picrate or merchants of chemical poisons, obviously!No, you only repeat to the trance that alcohol is a poison, without going further.
The best way to find out,
regardless of my wordsis to inform you directly to the source of the scientists who are specialized, I will not have to hold you by the hand to do it.
Take the stress that is devastating for physical and mental health (it can kill).
Obviously, he can kill
also !
What is better to de-stress if and when you are not a fan of relaxation, yoga or meditation? Take a chemical allopathic remedy or drink a glass of wine?
Neither ! If I'm stressed, like those who do not drink alcohol, I do not use either yoga and the like, let alone a chemical medicine (already I should have what is excluded by no need.)
but your question is like asking if it is better to have your right hand cut off rather than the left when you have a little bobo on each one.
For me, it would be a glass of wine. Therefore, the benefit (in the event that it works on the subject, of course) could not be greater than the damage? Would the benefits of stress reduction not be greater than the harms of the alcohol intake?
for you, obviously concerns you, that does not make it a universal rule!
Now it is not a glass of wine, nor a transient annoyance, but a regular state.
To repeat over and over that alcohol is a poison (which is true) is "a little" reducing.
No more reductive than repeating that some mushrooms, and other plants for that matter, are toxic and therefore dangerous and, even without dying instantly, they are not products to be consumed, nor occasionally, nor our role, as a parent and educator, is precisely to repeat, to repeat again, what will be favorable to his health and therefore his life (after what he will do it will be under his responsibility in as an adult
When you mention delirium, you talk about the last stage of alcoholism, when you speak violence, you talk about human stupidity, ditto for the accidentology due to the irresponsibility of the drinker and not alcohol (a gun does not shoot alone).
There is truth, but when
no one has a gunthere can be no accident related to its use.
When I talk to you drinking beer or alcohol in a reasoned / reasonable way, I'm talking about pleasure, not addiction.
So, do what I suggested! Go to AA meetings (or even a doctor addictologist) and you will hear the most diverse cases that have ALL started with reasonable consumption.
If the addiction happens is that the consumption is unreasonable / unreasonable and the notion of pleasure no longer exists,
Completely wrong! (See the story below) [*]
only the effects of the "alcohol drug" relieve the person. The same goes for all drugs, all poisons. *
indeed, but we must not confuse the initial consumption by which all begin, with what happens next according to the individuals.
In our western societies governed by this official drug since the dawn of time, do not you think that after generations the body is not a suitable minimum?
Scientifically? Never !
Your personal story has made you despicable, totalitarian and psycho-rational. In short, you are on a crusade like at a time when the leagues of virtue existed!
My personal story that you do not know, so can not judge. What makes you
contemptuous, totalitarian, and psychologically.
To consider alcohol only from a toxicological point of view is intellectual dishonesty. But I feel like it does not really bother you.
Unless the intellectual dishonesty comes from its non recognition and at the same time is suspecting addictologists who are not leagues of virtue, intellectual dishonesty, it should not please them!
Ps: as regards "picrate" and "chemical poisons", since I drink only organic ...
In biochemistry, what is called poison is only what has a
destructive action on living matternot just its size, whether it comes from a "natural" organic product or not, a pesticide or preservative.
Poison - Definition
Poison contains substances that can alter the vital functions of an individual ingesting themor even his death. Its toxicity depends on the dose that has been absorbed, its mode of administration and the physical condition of the subject. When we talk about poison, we often think of opium or arsenic. In general, the poison concerns all drugs, beverages and even foodswhich, when ingested in large quantities or frequently, cause irreversible damage and are likely to cause death.[*] So for the anecdote: one of my friends lived the hard time of the war and had to go to one of these work camps (barely disguised slavery) Germans and he told us the contempt that he had for the "boches" and out of pride of youth, he braved this authority refusing to bend his spine.
But he was a smoker and this product was not given to them by their torturers, of course. Yet, he told us, when the "boches" had their backs turned, he rushed to pick up the butts that these Germans had thrown to the ground. It was only years later, no longer smoking, that he realized the distortion of the spirit between saying it and doing it.
NB: A drug is a drug, not to be confused with the addict who is only a victim of it.
Still on tobacco (I have never participated in the alcohol cessation) it is remarkable to hear the views before and after giving up the drug, which shows that
this pleasure He was not one of them, but refused to recognize him under the influence of this drug, which distorted their judgment. Do not we say a good cigarette, a good cigar, a good wine, a good sniff, a good piquouse, a good food and even a good meal? before paying the price!
Sorry to be out of the topic on permafrost. the subject can be continued on other topic!
In the news, humanity once again exceeded its annual consumption potential in July.
"We make science with facts, like making a house with stones: but an accumulation of facts is no more a science than a pile of stones is a house" Henri Poincaré