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by sen-no-sen » 22/09/13, 11:38

Janic wrote:ahmed hello
With, however, compared to the biblical myth
what are the criteria according to which myth you can tax a story? :?


When that theologians began a historical-critical exegesis, for example ...
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by Ahmed » 22/09/13, 13:39

The myth does not care for historical truth, its purpose is different: it is to explain or justify a concept through a fictional narrative.

Today, this is still practiced a lot, under the name of "story telling", a way of giving an apparent coherence to a set of proposals which would be less convincing without this framework ...
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by sen-no-sen » 22/09/13, 13:43

Ahmed wrote:The myth does not care for historical truth, its purpose is different: it is to explain or justify a concept through a fictional narrative.

Today, this is still practiced a lot, under the name of "story telling", a way of giving an apparent coherence to a set of proposals which would be less convincing without this framework ...


Effectively! Myth founders, story telling or advertising, even practical!
Only in religions, the myths were intended to propose by allegories a path to knowledge, while in consumer society, this path leads only to the ... cash register ...
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by Ahmed » 22/09/13, 14:00

True, but the cash register is the gateway to redemption! :P
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by Janic » 22/09/13, 19:26

The myth does not care for historical truth, its purpose is different: it is to explain or justify a concept through a fictional narrative.
hence the question: how do we distinguish history from a myth. For example, Roman or Greek mythology is a fact admitted and recognized by each culture concerned and neither of them seeks to place it in a historical narrative. But when this "myth" is considered by those holding it as historical and not mythical: what criteria are taken into account? :?
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by Ahmed » 22/09/13, 20:29

But when this "myth" is considered by its supporters as being historical and not mythical: what criteria are taken into account?

It is these people that need to ask!
Everyone is free to believe what suits him ...
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by hic » 22/09/13, 21:51

Ahmed wrote:The myth does not care for historical truth, its purpose is different: it is to explain or justify a concept through a fictional narrative.

Today, this is still practiced a lot, under the name of "story telling", a way of giving an apparent coherence to a set of proposals which would be less convincing without this framework ...


Storytelling has an intention of implicit formatting of the mind,

the pub is a seduction, when not reconte bullshit.

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Which is contained in a speech to a clause in the proposal,
not in clear, explicit and formal, but who naturally draws induction, accordingly.
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by Janic » 23/09/13, 07:27

ahmed hello
It is these people that need to ask!
Everyone is free to believe what suits him ...
it is very fair and therefore raises the question of our own history: Vercingétorix, Charlemagne, etc ... are they myths transmitted from generation to generation or really historical characters as well as Buddha, Mohammed, Jesus or Moses since "everyone is free to believe what suits him. ”and moreover it is difficult to ask the question of those who have been dead for thousands of years and whose only their testimony would make it possible to make the difference! :?
PS: sorry for this drift from the main subject, but the appropriate topic being locked ... !!!
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by Ahmed » 23/09/13, 20:16

It is obviously necessary to distinguish between the founding myths which do not have the function of relating historical facts and real personages whose history has preserved the trace by embellishing, according to the times, a mythical dimension for utilitarian purposes ; See eg the instrumentalisation of Jeanne D'Arc by FN
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by chatelot16 » 23/09/13, 21:11

the myth ... like Vercingetorix, and our ancestor the Gauls ... completely invented in the era of Napoleon 3!

what about 4 gospel, some ecris century after jesus?

what about the ancient writing, which have been copied and translated successively in different languages?
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