Phenomena observed but unexplained?

[Grelinette]

excellent program which makes Michel Cymes wonder about his usual Cartesianism.

I saw this very interesting program which highlights the diversity of "effective", although not "scientific" medical practices!

It is also to the credit of Doctor Michel Cymes who admits to having been amazed by what he saw: an open heart operation in which the anesthetist is performed by acupuncture, and which comes to "shake up" the bases and the precepts of Western medicine.

[izentrop]

fifty programs they would have liked to see censorshipes

In no case is this word spoken, it denounces the false publicity made to pseudo-sciences, contrary to the ethics of public service.

[Janic]

janic wrote: fifty shows they would have liked to see censored

In no case is this word spoken, they denounce the false publicity made to pseudo-sciences, contrary to the ethics of public service.

You live on what planet! it is not enough that a word is not pronounced not to correspond to the reality that it covers.
so I quote again what they write:
Non-exhaustive list of reports and public service programs who are promoting pseudosciences in defiance of current scientific knowledge.
So on the one hand, it concerns ONLY the current knowledge of some conservative scientists and probably, for some, linked to financial lobbies.
Then and above all, the reports only follow the news which highlights certain practices, which some may not share, which for decades were obscured by these same lobbies and which exploded with the general public despite the omerta . It is therefore not a promotion of any practices or products, but information simply about what tomorrow, perhaps, will be promoted by opponents today AS ALWAYS. This operation under acupuncture demonstrates this!
Finally, the sect that you defend does not have the skills to determine with accuracy and exactness what really comes out of science, the real one, not the one that is arbitrarily selected by the pseudo scientific lobbies that you support.

[izentrop]

This operation under acupuncture demonstrates this!

Cymes had his actor cap. He is very strong at this game and as long as it pays well, the scruples ...

The Truth About Acupuncture http://www.pseudo-sciences.org/spip.php?article2460

[Janic]

janic wrote: This operation under acupuncture demonstrates it!

Cymes had his actor cap. He is very strong at this game and as long as it pays well, the scruples ...

Ouarf, the funny! It's a safe bet that you haven't even seen the report, it's so much more reassuring to hide behind the speeches of Pseudoscience (which is it itself) like the TJ behind the Watch Tower!
How much did you get paid to spread this kind of talk?
Clearly, according to you, the whole hospital, the surgeons, the nurses were acting out. You must have " something wrong in your head, it gives you funny ideas ».

The Truth About Acupuncture http://www.pseudo-sciences.org/spip.php?article2460

Re ouarf! The truth for a site that constantly manipulates lies ?!
This article is contradictory in many of its formulations which border on lying. But is this not precisely its objective? As shown in the Wakefield case where 15 questions were asked in true / false and that this site, through you, did not know how to provide answers and above all to indicate that all its gall was inaccurate as decided by the American justice, which they were careful not to mention in their sectarian speech.

[izentrop]

Re ouarf! The truth for a site that constantly manipulates lies ?!
This article is contradictory in many of its formulations which border on lying. But is this not precisely its objective? As the Wakefield case shows ...

The ex-doctor struck off for fraud ... great as an example .

Author of a fake study whose conclusions - an imaginary link between the MMR vaccine and a new form of autism - were written in advance, Andrew Wakefield was found guilty of fraud, lying and endangering the lives of his patients. Banned from exercising for life in the United Kingdom, he was offered the most accommodating of stands in Brussels by the deputy Michèle Rivasi. http://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/politi ... 50995.html

Right in his boots and more

[sen-no-sen]

Very good initiative from the ASTEC association:

Open letter to the mediators of public audiovisual programs
To the attention of
- Mr. Gora Pavel, mediator of France Télévisions programs
- Mr. Bruno Denaes, mediator of Radio France

“Public television is responsible for informing, educating and animating the democratic debate. "

Its vocation is therefore to give the public keys to understanding the world based on theories and facts solidly supported rather than flattering it in the sense of its irrational beliefs. https://www.esprit-critique.org/2017/03 ... ce-public/

Political populism begins with these kinds of broadcasts that caress popular ideas rather than providing real information.

What is the relationship between populism and the phenomena mentioned above?
As much as I search, I do not see the relationship between acupuncture and the national front?

[izentrop]

What is the relationship between populism and the phenomena mentioned above?
As much as I search, I do not see the relationship between acupuncture and the national front?

Many political figures of all stripes are more or less populist.
I see it in the broader sense as opportunism, clientelism, demagogy, ext doxocracy ...

Homeopathy and acupuncture are reimbursed by the security, while they are pseudo-sciences, it is that we did not appeal to scientists for this decision.

[Janic]

The ex-doctor struck off for fraud ... great as an example .

a) rather than continuing to pollute the site with information declared false by the American courts: answer rather the 16 questions which will indicate if the accusations are justified or not.
b) the fraud charges have not been confirmed by civil or criminal courts only empowered to determine it and not journalists in need of gossip.

Author of a fake study whose conclusions - an imaginary link between the MMR vaccine and a new form of autism - were written in advance, Andrew Wakefield was found guilty of fraud, lying and endangering the lives of his patients. Banned from exercising for life in the United Kingdom, he was offered the most accommodating of stands in Brussels by the deputy Michèle Rivasi. http://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/politi ... 50995.html
France info has only picked up false information. The accusations of fraud and company were made by the order of the doctors, great defender of vaccination (in addition Wakefield is not opposed to vaccinations elsewhere) as they do for all that is not conformist. Gold only the courts can declare if fraud has really been committed. But as usual, the order of doctors was careful not to go to these courts which would have dismissed their claim, or even have demonstrated that it was only defamation.
Finally, and most importantly, no family has brought a civil action against Dr. Wakefield considering that their lives had not been endangered, because otherwise groups of victims would have formed to ask justice, criminal, and claim damages, which did not happen, on the contrary.
continue your little game of false information if it amuses you, it will not change the fact that you spread errors, to say the least, and lies for the most.
And above all, do not hesitate to answer the 16 + 5 questions that were asked of you and to which you still haven't answered, .... assuming you are capable of it of course.

Many political figures of all stripes are more or less populist.
I see it in the broader sense as opportunism, clientelism, demagogy, ext doxocracy ...

like all established systems and therefore including those that you defend tooth and nail.

[izentrop]

However, only the courts can declare whether fraud has really been committed.

In 1998, the British surgeon Andrew Wakefield published in The Lancet a study carried out with twelve children affirming that some had developed a form of autism following the administration of the vaccine measles-mumps-rubella (ROR). This publication led to a sharp drop in vaccination coverage in the United Kingdom as well as a significant increase in measles cases. However, no other team managed to replicate this result. Worse, in 2004, the Sunday Times revealed that the children supposedly became autistic were it before being vaccinated. The newspaper mainly revealed that Wakefield had been bought by a lawyer who wanted to bring legal action against the laboratory producing the vaccine. The results of the study had in fact been entirely fabricated for this purpose. Several articles in the British Medical Journal later revealed that Wakefield planned to start a business based on an anti-vaccine propaganda campaign. In January 2010, a British General Medical Council court convicted the surgeon of data fabrication, depriving him of his right to practice medicine in the UK for life. https://lejournal.cnrs.fr/articles/sept ... -de-fraude