Le Potager du Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Yes, everything is in the link.

Which one ?

https://thenutrientcompany.com/blogs/ho ... lants-list

Impec I will review my names of flowers and vegetables in English

[Did67]

And then the proposed varieties have not generally been selected on their ability to get mycorrhizer.

Indeed !!!

And even if I use some, it is the big fear that one can have compared to the "modern varieties" (it does not matter whether they are hybrids or stable varieties): by dint of having been selected in stations with treatments / fertilizations etc, they may have lost the ability to get mycorrhizer, or to get mycorhizer effectively ?????

Being under perf in the station, in any case, the effectiveness to be mycorhizer could not be expressed!

[Did67]

I thought especially of an inoculation near the raspberries and the blackthorn. And there, it is difficult to put only on one half.

Ah OK, I did not get that ...

I would especially have to "fold" this plum (whose only function is to be a marker of the boundary with the neighbor; when I arrived, there was a fence, like all fences, it ended in tendril and fallow; it was removed; but this plum, like other shrubs below, are right on the border; so we kept it; it also carries a perch for raptors).

[Did67]

Small remark again: we classify in "endomycrohiza" or "ectomycorrhiza", but I am not sure that there are not tens, hundreds (?), Thousands (?????) of species different! It would even seem logical to me.

I quote myself to add this excerpt from a Quebec study [MA = arbuscular mycorrhizas]:

2019-02-20_18h37_43 200 species of mycorhizes.png (46.98 KIO) Accessed 1320 times

I was not far !!!

In :

2019-02-20_18h41_12 Study mycorhization.png (20.32 KIO) Viewed 1320 times

[Moindreffor]

little question,
what is the difference between rye and winter wheat?
because I know farmers who sow winter wheat and I find it hard to find rye

[VetusLignum]

And then the proposed varieties have not generally been selected on their ability to get mycorrhizer.

Indeed !!!

And even if I use some, it is the big fear that one can have compared to the "modern varieties" (it does not matter whether they are hybrids or stable varieties): by dint of having been selected in stations with treatments / fertilizations etc, they may have lost the ability to get mycorrhizer, or to get mycorhizer effectively ?????

Being under perf in the station, in any case, the effectiveness to be mycorhizer could not be expressed!

This is probably the case for recently selected varieties of wheat (and made to be fertilized and processed):

Do varieties establish better mycorrhizal symbiosis than others? It would seem so, through this study conducted by Swiss researchers on wheat varieties in the middle of the 1990 years. They compared the effect of the addition of a mycorrhizal fungus on several varieties of wheat, some considered as old because dating from before 1975 and the others more recent, obtained after 1975.
The result is quite clear and gives us some idea of ​​the direction taken by the varietal selection: 8 so-called old varieties on 11 have had a yield gain with mycorrhization. In varieties after 1975, they are only 1 on 11!
What some researchers like D. Wipf are trying to alert. But beware, the specialist wishes to remind that no variety, despite the selection, has lost its ability to associate with the fungus. Simply, it is the performance of this ability that has been diminished.
http://www.agroforesterie.fr/base/press ... coagra.pdf

But when it comes to vegetables in our gardens, I do not know.
After all, it is not impossible that this or that old variety of vegetable selected for its resistance to this or that disease, actually resisted it thanks to mycorrhizal symbiosis.

[Did67]

little question,
what is the difference between rye and winter wheat?
because I know farmers who sow winter wheat and I find it hard to find rye

Wheat has been genetically extremely shortened; it produces less biomass. Much less.

Rye is still a little more resistant to cold and "grows" more in low temperatures ...

Have you looked in an "organic" store if you can not find bags of "organic" rye in grains ??? At home, I find it easily.

[Moindreffor]

little question,
what is the difference between rye and winter wheat?
because I know farmers who sow winter wheat and I find it hard to find rye

Wheat has been genetically extremely shortened; it produces less biomass. Much less.

Rye is still a little more resistant to cold and "grows" more in low temperatures ...

Have you looked in an "organic" store if you can not find bags of "organic" rye in grains ??? At home, I find it easily.

I'm going to get the organic store then in our countryside, organic is struggling to break through ...

[Did67]

I like, their slogan, to young people for the climate !!!

"When I grow up I want to be alive"

There, they turn yellow jackets ...

[Janic]

I like, their slogan, to young people for the climate !!!
"When I grow up I want to be alive"
There, they turn yellow jackets ...

especially, for the most part, they do not have to make the funds of drawers to finish the month because their food and their cover is assured to them free by daddy, mom! But when they will have to assume financially, they will turn from green to yellow! or continue to live on the hooks of their parents GJ.