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Re: I'm still waiting for the return of the machine




by zac » 11/04/07, 15:51

RolCopter wrote:Conclusion it will be difficult to thwart, for cons for those who do not have a turbo, ideal location.


If you want it to work with a turbo; it is necessary imperatively that you connect before the turbo.

be careful not to send too much water in the pantone, because if you drown it and the water comes in the form of drops in the turbo, will not like (the turbo).


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I like to divert the imperatives lol!




by RolCopter » 11/04/07, 17:58

good evening everyone

Yes Zac but I like to divert the imperatives lol!

If you want it to work with a turbo; it is imperative that you connect before the turbo.


I take the measures of yesterday, it may be wrong having left the pressure valve on the bubbler.
By cons there was water in the bubbler when I left yesterday and the return of the car more visible level, or is it past? Two possible outlets the breather recovery on the air intake or through the ERG valve?
It will be necessary that I put a temperature probe on the return reactor, I have probes and regulators but in this respect question to PITMIX until which temperature hold the probes used on the refrigerating installation?
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by RolCopter » 12/04/07, 16:44

Bonjour à tous
The turbo pressure measurements at the ERG valve level give: nothing to 400 millibar, which prohibits any connection of the reactor in the place.
On the other hand it allowed me to note that in "usual use" on this car the ERG valve is constantly open. : Evil: :?:
On the program this weekend: 8)
Stitching on turbo front air duct for reactor outlet recovery
Temperature measurement points
Condemnation of the ERG valve (with killing in the public square)

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in informed recuperator




by RolCopter » 14/04/07, 22:42

Bonjour à tous

Today disassembly of the intake duct just before the turbo to do the quit recovery reactor output.
Then reassemble and connect the elements. At the passage in informed recuperator: modification of a small ball valve to receive the temperature probe sealing with silicone hose .. :D
https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... ature1.jpg

And then damn! and rezut! a stud farting into the collector : Evil: exhaust by dismantling a flange of the ERG duct. The kind of thing that breaks the rhythm, after extracting the song we stop everything, tomorrow tapping and further editing.
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by RolCopter » 16/04/07, 18:15

Bonjour à tous
Resumption of the repair of the stud, then finalization of the test setup.
Addition of a bubbler output filter

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Summary control equipment in the passenger compartment

https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... soire1.jpg

Not good the photographer; you have to see a pressure gauge on the left and a temperature regulator on the right which currently only serves as a display!

It was yesterday, for anecdote on my trip back to work yesterday evening, this morning nothing works: it's dumb but this afternoon I found the output reactor disconnected! : Evil:

Probably I would see a difference tonight. :?
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Probably I would see a difference tonight.




by RolCopter » 17/04/07, 18:56

Bonjour à tous

From me yesterday
Probably I would see a difference tonight.


Well, not decidedly; result a return trip without consuming a drop of water.
The only controls and appreciations of this rolling
Not enough depression at the bubbler level
And as a consequence reactor outlet temperature around 20 ° C to 36 ° C.

So not enough depression and in the week no major changes possible.
I search the side of the connections to detect possible leaks;
won the escape or it hurts

: Arrow: reactor output, so under the car : Evil:

Repair and then tonight test while taxiing. (17 / 04 / 07)

Next day's observation: no improvement (18 / 04 / 07)

Added a AVEC in the turbo front manifold

https://www.econologie.com/fichiers/partager/AVEC2.jpg

One of you would have done measurements after implanting an AVEC in an intake manifold, I wonder if this creates a loss of load. :?:

Next day's observation: no improvement (19 / 04 / 07)

Modification of the bubbling setting at the breather recycling stage in order to create a slight overpressure.

Next day's observation: no improvement (20 / 04 / 07)

Finding of the week:
Zero water consumption
Insufficient reactor circuit depression

Having found from the beginning that the stitching in the intake manifold was not adequate, I prepared in the week a tapered pipe penetration greater than currently.
Another solution would be to reverse the stitching of the breather with that of the reactor.:?:
Little by little the bird is nesting, but we are far from finding a universal system suitable for all engines.

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by RolCopter » 21/04/07, 19:55

Bonjour à tous

Today disassembly of the intake duct just before the turbo to redo the return reactor outlet tapping.
https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... Turbo5.jpg

I made measurements after implanting an AVEC in the intake manifold between the flowmeter and the pipeline before the turbo, it does not seem to create a pressure drop.

https://www.econologie.com/fichiers/partager/AVEC4.jpg

https://www.econologie.com/fichiers/partager/AVEC5.jpg

Try to follow Sunday night going to work, tomorrow other occupation the awakening of my old 600XT.
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it's moving slowly but surely ..




by RolCopter » 24/04/07, 19:05

Bonjour à tous
Today again disassembly of the intake duct just between the turbo and the flowmeter to set up a loss of charge because I still miss and still a sufficient depression in the bubbler.
Incidentally I point out that I always do a test after any modification (rule of thumb: for any development)
So en route tonight for the observations, patient it advances slowly but surely ..
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Setting in progress




by RolCopter » 06/05/07, 14:53

Bonjour à tous
I do not often have the car at my disposal to test, the reactor takes a tiny amount of steam in the bubbler. A priori there is a lack of depression, the only solution I am considering for now is to reduce the level of water in the bubbler (lowering the weight of the water column).
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by zac » 06/05/07, 15:44

Hello

Have you measured your depressure?
If so, how many do you find?

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